Up | March 03, 2013
>>> you made an interesting point. the intensity trade off. you believe in x, y, or z. one of the issues you argue over thanksgiving dinner and the polls. we confusion the two a lot in politics. it leads to a lot of confusion generally. if your issue is this issue, you can't be convinced to not care about the issue. that's what you care about. right on queue, president brian brown announce they will spend 500,000 to defeat republican who is support gay marriage and defeat any republican who votes in favor of same-sex marriage. they need to look no further than what happened to gop senators in new york. we helped take out by repeatedly form them of betrayal on marriage. they are now oust office. we will not hesitate and do this in minnesota. i wonder what you make of that. will they play a big in politics and the calculations of elected officials.
>> as long as the republican electorate are broken down the way they are, they will. a lot of social conservative acts and the debates of the late 80s and 90s, there was a push to get rid of the pro life plan. many similar arguments and types of people were -- the republican consultants were advocating that and saying theyor the wrong side of the issue and the polling changed somewhat. there is no serious push to do that anymore. the trajectory is different.
>> it's a kind ofstasis in abortion polling. there is not in rights.
>> i think it's understandable for activists to look at the resident and think there might be hope.
>> i would say on that i think there important differences. i am pro choice , but having an understanding of where the pro lifers are coming from, if you are talking about abortion that's a live and death issue. i don't think that pro lifers and social conservatives regard same-sex marriage in those terms. they do whatever it is they are going do is not the same as killing a human being . that will be regarded differently. that does have an impact.
>> i am detecting a decline around gay marriage and some that are socially conservative . i want to talk about it. it's remarkable. the response to the president appearing on national television saying republicans for them to be like they are trying to detract from the economy.
>> or she flip flopping, but not saying he is wrong.
>> there is inevitability and saying i am against gay marriage , but they can see it coming down the road. and i think they see it's happening some places and not changing the nature of society and they can't do much about it. while they are still a posed, they are not as avidly opposed as they used to be. that may be the opening.
>> i want to talk about and zoom out to talk about coalition politics and the notion of purity. who is in and who is out and how do you make the decision? that applies in left politics and also in right politics. any kind of movement and ideological camp. there is a trade off between having a big tank coalition and those who might have different views and you might be the local unit and not having people who are o poed to things you really don't believe in. i think this is playing on an interesting way the way the media is evolving. they have an interesting post critiquing