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Grading Marco Rubio’s State of the Union rebuttal

The Up with Chris Hayes panelists look at whether the Republican State of the Union response was an echo of Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign message.

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>>> the other sort of big moment in the week of politics in terms of responding to -- in terms of revealing the relationship that will unfold in the 113th congress between the president -- very ambitious domestic policy agenda, particularly in a congress that's going to have to vote on it, was the response from senator marco rubio . this is just a little bit. i think what's -- moatable here is it basically sounds like the campaign. it doesn't sound any different than a republican in, you know, mid 2012 or 2011 . the same note he is striking.

>> there are valid reasons to be concerned about the president's plan to grow our government. but any time anyone opposes the president's agenda, he and his allies usually respond by falsely attacking their motives. when we point out that no matter how many job killing laws we passed, our government can't control the weather. he accuses of us wanting dirty water and dirty air. when we suggest we strengthen our safety net programs by giving states more flexibility to manage them, he accuses us of wanting to leave the elderly and disabled to fend for themselves. tonight he he even criticized for us refusing to raise taxes to delay military cuts, cuts that were his idea in the first place. his favorite attack of all is that those of us that don't agree with him, that we only care about rich people .

>> the government can't control our weather line drove me bananas. i thought -- i mean, look -- i don't -- i don't believe in like all this split bipartisanship stuff. people should believe in what they believe in. i'm not like off oenlded marco rub joe going hard at the president. he is a republican and he is giving me opposition. i just think that what's interesting to me from the internal conversation within the republican party that's been playing out in the conservative magazines and in different venues about what do we do now in the wake of the election, that it seems to me like what came out of the marco rubio response is like -- we are just going to ham other the same stuff. government is too big and regulation kills jobs. taxes are too high. et cetera . which is -- was basically the romney campaign platform.

>> i have to say like maybe i believed the time magazine hype and i liked the -- marco rubio was on the cover leading up to this. maybe also because i was really excited to hear marco rubio has been pushing this, you know, immigration reform . i thought that maybe we are going to get like a younger, more dynamic, more open to talking about things off-limits for republicans guy who is trying to be president and i would agree that i was a little disappointed because it felt like right down the mid federal the republicans.

>> more interesting republican state of the union was rand paul . more inning in terms of substance and politically because it is like -- here is a rebut actual the rebuttal. ron paul is holding accountable -- this mitt romney and rubio follow the same type of line trying to be a little bit more conservative than obama but not try to scare off the political base and rand paul slyke no, we want sequester. it shows the fight happening in the political party . what they are talking about is what will happen within the republican party . are they willing to work to try to help govern or hold on to really strong ideological stances like rand paul and hold to 2016 .

>> do you think the core message on government is too big, regulation killing jobs, taxes need to be lowered. do you think that's politically effective for --

>> effective. we go out and -- the community and it is. small businesses are being strangled now by the regulation and you roll your eyes but that's what --

>> what are -- what are the regulations?

>> you said it was effective.

>> no, no. what i'm saying -- messenger, also, is very for. and -- rubio is an amazing mess ensxwrer great communicator and that's why he is getting attack because if it was mediocre sort of response people would not care. he --

>> looked very mediocre. that's your opinion. 50% of the population thought rubio was awesome. he talks about things in a way that really bring it to real life . had comes from --

>> you hi it is -- the messenger. you think fundamentally basically the romney message -- which this was this is different vessel can work.

>> you can -- characterize it all you want. obama said the exact same thing in the state of the union . same old same old.

>> basically, yes. he just won an election.

>> the thing is --

>> i know.

>> 28 minutes.

>> i mean, he comes from immigrants. he talks about being in the middle class . his father was a bar the ender, mother was secretary. he rose. he has the american dream story. he can communicate that. he does it in a way that attracts people.

>> no. the point is -- there is a difference there. i think there is a degree to which --

>> you can talk to --

>> he did.

>> everyone does.

>> everyone writes the story about themselves how they were brought up.

>> i think he has a great story. i think he is an interesting guy. that's why i was disappointed because i feel like he could really be somebody interesting and i felt like he went with --

>> my control room is telling me i'm way over. thanks for coming here. one of the biggest surprises in the president's state of the union