The Rachel Maddow Show | May 09, 2012
>>> to describe republicans as being anything but extraordinarily pro woman, pro opportunity for women of america, pro moms, pro working moms, pro working women, look, that kind of effort is totally missing the mark.
>> republicans are extraordinarily pro woman. so says mitt romney . what counts toward that exactly? may we discuss what counts toward that. and on the day when president obama put mitt romney 's anti gay platform in center of the presidential debate. can we talk about that too? we have lizz winstead . the book comes out tomorrow. she is cocreator of "the daily show ," she hired me at air america , brought me out of wilderness. congratulations on the book, it's really, really funny, very touching.
>> you know what? thanks.
>> you didn't tell the dark side of air america . you made is sound like it was meaningful -- you took the deep and meaningful lessons and none of the cheap shots you could have taken, which i'm not sure i could have done.
>> here is the thing. as we lived through the crazy part of air america , the one part that rose out of it, everyone knows the story, saw the documentary and know these people from guam decided to sign on with, which was bizarre. sure, this sounds like a pretty good idea. we'll give up our careers and go to guam. when it all started falling apart, we banded together. nobody quit, people who had money helped pay the other people. we made these crazy comedy bits. we had a riot and built relationships that were really important.
>> and we especially on the radio, had a darn good time.
>> it's true. and the legacy ultimately is what everybody has done since then, and it was that liberals ought to be in the media an overt liberal voice in the media and that has borne some fruit in the world.
>> it has borne fruit and we were right. the problems with air america wasn't that there wasn't a butt load of talent if you will.
>> technical term .
>> you know, when i'm on a news network and i thought butt load was appropriate. starting in the morning with you and mark and then jeanine and sam and they all went on to go do amazing things . and you a senator. my work is done. see you later .
>> one of the things you write about a lot in "lizz free or die" your evolving politics about abortion rights . ing about having an abortion, your family's dealing with it or not dealing with it. and your activism in as an adult. i wonder if you have an explanation for why the anti abortion republican party has gone so hog wild in the last couple of years. think have always been anti abortion rights, but the last couple of years have been nuts in terms of anti abortion politics. why is that?
>> really nuts. i think when women have been moving further and further to demand their place at the table and threatened in obvious power structure that all of a sudden has to prove itself like we have had to for so many years, i think it's about control and i think it's incredibly frightening. there are a couple of states that it's illegal to exfoliate at this point. i don't know, but the laws keep coming down the pipe.
>> don't you dare --
>> don't you dare use a loofah, missy. some of the laws, the more track onnian you g i dcaconian you get, to me being a teen where i was very much alone in oklahoma. they lump us together as though we were one big uterus and your life and your needs are very different than my life and my needs, and i have known from a young girl that i would not be a good mom. i just don't have that thing. i have other goals, other drives, other needs, and the thing that i think is sort of the untold scary part of all of this, and i hope we talk about that more, the less access we have to health care , the less access that women have choices to follow their destiny and that's the part i feel so incredibly strongly about. and i tell my story, because it's not an extraordinary one.
>> that's the thing about the book, self-determination. being raised to be a kid who knew who you wanted to be. it being incredibly unpopular from the moment you told the priest that you wanted to be an altar boy. but self-determination is sort of your listen. know who you are, fight to get it, and that's the most rewarding thing you can do with it.
>> i have this anvil rule. i can't lift an anvil, so i would never apply for a job to like move -- pullout couches, for example, i can't lift them some of if i wanted to try something that wasn't going to harm me and didn't involve the metaphoric anvil lifting, why shouldn't i be able to? and i think that's why i was so drawn to the gay community and people from color. skin doesn't prevent you from lifting an anvil, and we prevent people from doing things because of the color of their skin. why? why are we so focused on something that makes them happy? i never understood that. even in my tiny little pea brain.
>> the book is incredibly irreverent, constantly laugh out loud , deep story about that self-determination idea which is really important. thanks, man.
>> thanks, man.
>> is it inappropriate to hug and you say muah?
>> you have to wait until we have a smaller table. lizz free or die. a great title, a great book. really, really funny and important.