Republicans vs. Republicans on immigration reform

>>> the first step in getting the voters to luck us is to demonstrate that we like them.

>> note to the governor, your party is not listening. in an editorial yesterday they

said: the editors of the national review think they know why republicans are losing the latino vote. take away the spanish surname and they look like other democratic constituencies. joining me now msnbc and nbc latino contributor and msnbc political analyst. victoria, i would love to get your reaction to that picture of the latino voter as described by the national review .

>>> i'm incomplete disagreement of their assessment.

>> yes, romney and mccain did poorly. but because they did a 180 in terms of reaching out. and george w. bush did rather well. he grew from low 30s up to over 40% in 2004 . if you look at his years as governor here in texas, he did very well with latinos. they will never been an over chel ma well manyingconstituency. but for them to give up on that percentage of independents to me is puzzling.

>> that is the point. john kerry got 53% of the latino vote. the question for republicans is how much do you want to lose the latino vote by.

>> george w. bush got 47% of their vote. we were talking about the day that we would get to 50% of the vote. it is a remarkable statement. i think that piece airs legitimate conservative issues around immigration reform . but the stigmatisation i don't understand it. why would you paint the demographic like that. it is part of the problem when we hear the word " latino " like it is a dependant class of moochers and they are as much a part of the fabric of the community has the same hopes and aspirations and for the republican party to almost purposely allen nate that ignoring the successes, states who used to win presidential elections i don't understand it. it is hard to comprehend that perspective. why would you do that?

>> when republicans lose the women's vote they don't put out similar state manies. in reading this editorial, they have thrown up their hands and the other troubling piece about this article was their miss interpretation of the 1986 immigration reform . it was a failure because they didn't address the demand. people kept coming over because employers kept giving jobs to other folks. they make the comparison to amnesty1986 and amnesty today. if you were undocumented and erica went through you could go and apply for long-term residentsy and pay a $135 application fee. you have to get in the back of the line and pay taxes. we don't know what kinds of fines they are going to have to pay. two different talks here of amnesty. ann coulter is on the rational review side. she said some were democratic voters. who is going to win this argument in the republican are party. do the democrats need all of the republicans? they just need some.

>> it should be fascinating to watch. into the storm goes marco rubio . we are going to find out a lot in the cone teflt text of his aguilt to weather the storm. if he can't rally people to a great cause. he goes into the storm now with conservatives and republicans about to have a important debate about the future of our party. thank you both for joining me tonight

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