The Last Word   |  January 31, 2013

Gov. Patrick’s advice to O’Donnell: Keep working hard

In an exclusive interview, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick tells MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell why he did not follow his unsolicited advice about who he should appoint to fill John Kerry's senate seat. And the governor also lets the anchor down gently about not getting chosen for the job.

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>>> washington and he ignored the unsolicited advice of others like me who kept telling him that he should appoint the honorable barnie frank. governor patrick announced his choice yesterday. william cowan who has served the governor has his chief of staff. he is a married father of two young children and is a really good guy and who is also wicked smart.

>> thank you for joining me tonight, governor.

>> glad to be with you tonight.

>> as you know, i have said on this program, in this past month, that you are the greatest governor in the world of all-time.

>> my goodness, i feel there is a but coming.

>> there is. i was urging you to appoint barnie frank to the sensenate. this is the first time that a massachusetts governor has rejected my advice but do your best to convince me based on this choice that you are indeed still the greatest governor in the world.

>> well, i don't know if i can quite make that mark. that is the bar. i thank you very much for the encouragement. first of all, what is not to like about barnie frank? he was one of a number of folks on a long and deep list of moeks having been my chief of staff and chief legal council before that. he is a well respected citizen people who come and go. and uncommonly wise and thoughtful and always well prepared. to the extent that i'm a good governor, it is a lot having to do with his contribution. i think he is going to be a great stewart until the main event when the people fill that seat. i was worki ining in the senate the first female attorney and first african-american u.s. attorney and those were choiced made for the best qualified people for those jobs at the time. i will never forget the senator feeling history in his hands in making those choices and those appointments. did you feel that as you were approaching this have that go opportunity to appoint an afghter african-american to the senate?

>> i thought about it. but i do think that it is incumbent on all of us in positions with opportunities like the one that i have to consider the fact that we are a much, much richly diversion community and common wealth and country and that there is talent in every community having opportunities to expotise that talent is a great thing. i want to listen to something that your lieutenant governor said about senate cowan .

>> he's cool. tom brady , george clooney , james bond have nothing on moe.

>> governor.

>> it's true.

>> he's that cool?

>> he's really that cool. i hope you will have him on some time soon.

>> you know what's the shame is that we are only going to get this short period of moe cowan , he is going back into the private sector. he is a true public citizen in the sense that he does feel that sense of service and active citizenship and i think that will motivate this best work in the time in the senate. this is you and me talking here. as you know, i've worked in the senate or aeight years and i'm from dorchester.

>> wicked good.

>> and i did for a few hours express and interest in this. tell me the truth. where was i on the short list?

>> let me say that had you not been on the short list. i probably would not have come on your show.

>> i'm sure other opportunities will come for you if you continue to work hard.

>> so i think this is actually working out well for everyone involved. and lis tenlisten, if senator cowan can be half as cool as the coolest governor in the world he will be the coolest senator because that is the low bar.

>> i'm called a lot of things cool is not one of them. thank you.

>> governor patrick, thank you very very much for joining us tonight. thank you for considering all of the public advice that you got about this. i completely respect your decision making process .

>> thank you so much. be well.

>> thank you.

>> take care.

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