The White House and Congress are asking ‘which way out?’

>>> president obama met with john boehner . 69% support raising taxes on incomes over $250,000. 28% oppose it. 52% support raising taxed on $250,000. 2/3 of independent voters but being the leader of the poll denying party isn't always easy.

>> could you describe how difficult it is to craft a deal that your conference will support while not jeopardizing your job at speaker?

>> i'm not concerned about my job. i'm concerned about doing the right thing for our kids and grand kids.

>> we still believe that a big deal is possible. in case of emergency the house should break a glass that the house speaker ought to allow republicans to deal with a chunk of the fiscal cliff.

>> form eer democratic speaker is giving public seminared even when the speaker of the house doesn't like the bill.

>> they can bring a bill to the floor that doesn't have the majority but has everybody onboard. canp bring a bill to the floor that the republicans don't have to vote for. so it is tough. but you have to do it. so is the point that you don't want to put your members on the spot figure it out. we did. figure it out and then go forward and continue to debate the issue. senator paul has this suggestion for how to get the tax increase passed in the house.

>> my suggestion to them has been i think that we should put forward that we are for. i think we should encourage those in the house to vote present.

>> joining me now is the chairman of the house sub committee. thank you for joining me tonight.

>> so you have a tough situation here. what do you make of nancy pelosi 's advice which is every now and again something comes along but you put it on the floor and you let it get the support of the party and you let the bill pass?

>> one way to do it, i think what i would like to do is suggest if the taxes do go up and you know this because probably not anybody better on television, you served as the chief of staff in the senate, i know you know numbers well, this is not going to solve our problem. i liked at the $30 billion number for ten years. the problem with it is. it only covers ten stays of the deficit in november of this year. so it is spending. the other way to raise revenue is getting our people back to work. i looked at the deficit and we saw our unemployment rate drop. we have created 150 tho,000 jobs per month. if we create 150,000 jobs per month for the next three years it is going to take that to get our rate down to 6%. we should be concentrating getting our people back to work. because you raise taxes, it means if they put a number on it, small businesses will make some changes. other tax increases haven't done that, but that is a way to raise revenue.

>> let's the go up to new year's eve and off the cliff. it is january first and second. and john boehner convenes an emergency session of the house. and the pro poposal is to cut taxes on everything except the two top income tax brackets. what would happen on a vote in the house in the first week of january to cut taxes?

>> i think i would bring that bill and i would bring a second bill. not to let people know we are extending the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 .

>> to get to where we would be in the first week of january. the rates would go up. and so, what the president and what the democrats would want to do is say let's get them all except the top two. why not send two bills out on the floor one that cuts them all that would not pass with democratic votes and put the other one up there that would cut them all except the top two.

>> i think you are right. i talked to senator about that. we are still talking about tax increases. we need to talk about what we are going to do. you have heard numbers. it doesn't put a dent in the deficit. we have to stop the trillion deficits. it would be an argument against the tax. when is the last time that you voted for something in cag that solved everything?

>> never.

>> congressman thank you very, very much for joining us tonight.

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