The Last Word | December 04, 2012
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>>> tonight, we have new evidence that secretary of state hillary clinton is running for president. politicser reveal that she sent hand signed notes with supportive words and encouragement to democrats who narrowly lost their congressional races. in one note, secretary clinton wrote, we will continue needing your voice in the public square in the years to come. in the words of eleanor roosevelt , the future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. onward! onward indeed. president obama 's pick to chair the democratic party for the next four years, representative debby wasserman schultz , said this about secretary clinton today on andrea mitchell reports.
>> she is an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america . i'm sure that she'll be pressed into service. and knowing secretary clinton , i'm sure she doesn't plan to rest very long.
>> and the race for the 2016 republican presidential nomination , moments ago, congressman paul ryan spoke at the jack kemp foundation dinner where senator rubio was receiving a leadership award paul ryan won last year.
>> marco is joining an elite group of past rescipients of the reward. i'll see you at the reunion dinner .
>> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire. but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored.
>> joe klein , the games apparently have begun.
>> only for those of us --
>> 2016 will be a lot more fun than 2012 was. and you know, up until a few weeks ago, i had the democratic ticket set. it would be a hillary clinton / david petraeus ticket. but i think that's kind of -- you know.
>> we have to rewrite half of it.
>> yes, well, although i mean -- we don't even need to go there.
>> the hillary, what i've heard, is that the people who are in the financial end of hillary's campaign have been alerted that they got planning to do. some of them are also andrew cuomo fund-raisers and they are alert that there is planning they need to do. some of them are pretty conflicted. that's the best that i have on what she's thinking.
>> i've tal fundraisers and they are planning. i think she is going to run. she is exhausted now. she'll take a couple -- she may not know she is going to run although i suspect she kind of does. she will take a couple years. and at this point she would be a very, very formidable candidate. depending on what happens over the next four years. mario cuomo used to say between now and then, a pope will be born which means, who the hell knows what's going to happen? the second obama term could be a disaster. i don't expect it will be. and that would make it harder for her. but she is as well prepared as anybody i have covered in 43 years of doing this. to be president of the united states .
>> the republican movement is pretty clear. rubio has already gone to iowa. they seem to be following the romney model of, you start the minute the election is over.
>> yeah. you know what? they got a big problem. and you were just talking about it. you take republican decent republicans, lamar alexander , sacks by chambliss, a member of the gang of six, who is the third? lindsey graham who is often rational when not talking about foreign policy . what do all three of them have in common in they'll get tea party challenges in 2014 . and you know, i read the speeches that rubio and paul ryan gave tonight and they were wonderful about the need to reex out to the poor and the afflicted. and so on. but every republican who votes for any kind of revenue increase in these coming, in these coming votes, there will be facing a tea party challenge. and i suspect that that party is going to have to come to terms with that. it may take a couple more cycles to do it.
>>> have the tea party challenge would not even let these guys loose to vote for the american disabilities act going worldwide.
>> outrageous. it is just, it is beyond outrageous. it is the kind of crazy nut behavior that lost in this election. mitt romney might have been a more successful candidate if he had stood up to the tea party at any one point during the election. he was never outflanked to his right during the course of winning that nomination. and i think that republicans are going to have to ask themselves. especially those who want to be president. i am a going to be bullied by these people?
>> and everyone said it. all the commentators on television said romney needs a moment. he has to find a spot. where is it? is it when rush limbaugh attacks a georgetown law school student? where is that moment? romney could never find it.
>> how about moving to the right of rick santorum on contraception? if you're going to run as a moderate. and by the way, the only time he was successful during the campaign was when he moved to the center by renegging everything he said said before. when blin ran as a moderate, the signal that he send to moderate conservatives was, i'm upset about welfare as well. and we're going to reform it. and romney did not do that. and paul ryan has a particularly, you know, interesting moment coming, too. he is proposed a plan for medicare . medicare advantage. that is exactly the same as obama care is for people under the age of 65. and so i'm waiting for paul ryan to tell me the difference between his medicare advantage plan and the obama health care exchanges.
>> i think we can settle this 2016 thing right now.
>> what are you, kidding?
>> i stopped making predictions like six seconds ago. we're great when we talk about things that happened in the past or things happening now. we're really stupid.
>> joe klein gets the last very cautious word. thank you very much for joining me.