Next election could be worse for GOP

>>> know what our new reality is? every month 50,000 hispanics turn 18 years old, every month. that's 600,000 hispanic youth every year. do you really think this party wants to spend the rest of the next 15, 20, 40, 50 years in the political desert? if they do, great. here's your moment. if they don't, you've got to get real with the new reality.

>> nbc exit polls found the share of the white elect toert fell, while the latino electorate jumped. an overwhelming 71% went for obama compared to mitt romney 's 27%. that is the lowest performance for republicans in eight years. john mccain got 31% four years ago, george w. bush got 40% in 2004 . exit polls show latinos are becoming a solid democratic voting black. in 2004 , 42% of latino voters called themselves democrats and 31% returns. that moved to 51% democratic, to 21% republican. bill o 'reilly had a warning for fox viewers last night.

>> just a changing country. the demographics are changing, it's not a traditional america anymore. and there are 50% of the voting public who want stuff. they want things. and who is going to give them things? president obama . he knows it and he ran on it. and whereby 20 years ago, president obama would have been defeated by an establishment candidate like mitt romney . the whitish willment is now the minority.

>> unioning me now is joy reid. how bad are you feeling for the white establishment tonight?

>> tragic.

>> bill o 'reilly and the white establishment are founding their powers fading.

>> yeah, it's fading. i will concede to bill o 'reilly absolutely the the minorities who are taking over the country want stuff. they want to not have voter id laws, they want the respect of being treated like americans even if they might have an ak sent. they want to not be labeled welfare queens. they want things. they want to vote. fancy that. the problem that the republican party has is that when they look at minorities, they either look at them as a threat that's taking over the country, that ascribe to the minority's power that trust me, we don't have, or they look at them as an opportunity for tokenism. and this party that is supposedly against affirmative action, their way of outreach to latinos or african-american is find one so conservative that no others would vote for them and say look at this, vote for them. i mean, it doesn't work.

>> mark, you've watched the republican party drift in this direction and take active steps in this direction and those primaries where mitt romney thought his job was to sound as tough as possible on any form of opening of immigration in any way on the southern border and there we saw another texas governor rick perry with a more expansive view of this than the rest of the people in his party than the texas governor who ran before him as president. for republicans do you have to actually live on that border to get this?

>> well, you shouldn't have to. but you're right. govern ors like rick perry and george w. bush being close to the border with a lot of hispanic population understood the policies and messages that are important to hispanics . and you know, i couldn't disagree more with what bill o 'reilly said, exactly why the republicans have a problem. talk about it's not traditional america anymore, as if hispanics are not traditional. there's nothing more than traditional than immigration. and the notion that they want things, hispanics are great entrepreneurs. they're small business builders. they're great examples of the american dream . and that's exactly why republicans have a problem. one in five voters said the most important issue to them was the notion that the candidates cared about people like them. i suspect a lot of those voters are hispanics and romney won that vote by 81-18. so when you have a candidate who's out there talking about self deportation who's attacking rick perry for providing in state tuition for children of immigrants, it's quite clear why we have a problem and demographics is destiny and republicans continue to claw their way to the problem unless we get this thing turned around.

>> bill o 'reilly thinks the solution is get rid of paul ryan .

>> the republican party has to rethink strategy. in hind sight, marco rubio would have been the best choice to run with mitt romney . it's not a knock on paul ryan . he did very well. it's just that the gop needs to send a powerful signal to hispanic voters that the party respects them.

>> he thinks it's about signals. he think it's about having a spanish name on the ballot. you don't have to do anything on policy.

>> and you don't have to do anything on tone. i think mark got to a really good point. you have this phenomenon happen in the conservative movement where their media culture has taken over their political culture . the left has a media culture too but it doesn't instruct the party how to behave. but people like bill o 'reilly and rush limbaugh , they set the tone and the tea party enforces that within the political space. they expect and demand even marco rubio had to be against the dream act . he had to use term like illegals. you have to get up to the edge of top radio speak in order to fit in. just having somebody with an "o" at the end of their name is not going to fix the tone and it's the tone that's turning off latino voters.

>> here's the deal. michigan mccontinental has to get mark co-rubio in the office and john boehner and say look guys, i'm running for election in two years. i want marco rubio here to find us a way out of this on policy. find us a version of the dream act that we can live with, that the president can sign. it doesn't havetor a majority vote of republicans . we can vote with democrats in the senate on this and boehner can let house republicans slide over and let it get through his chamber and pretend to oppose it and all that so that they get this issue out of their way. mark, when you listen to that math that michael steel mentioned, i don't see how the republican party can pretend to have a chance nationally four years from now.

>> it can't. with these kind of numbers. and i think actually one of the good results of republicans losing is they're going to have to examine the reality here. and they're going to have to cut a deal on immigration. they need to because it's the right thing to do, but it's also politically will help. and i think it's going to take more than just rolling out somebody with a hispanic name , but there are a lot of people, including people like jeb bush who have a lot of good ideas about where the party needs to go on these issues, we need a quick consensus and republicans need to pull together, step forward with their own plan on immigration, be pro active on this. they can lead on this and come together with president obama and get a deal done in the first year. i think it would be terrific for the country and good for the republican party .

>> i think the president would be ready to do that deal, too.

>> i do too.

>> thank you for joining me.

>> thank you.

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