The Last Word   |  March 22, 2012

Rev. Al Sharpton talks rally for Trayvon

On The Last Word, MSNBC’s Rev. Al Sharpton, the leader of Trayvon Martin rally, says there’s a feeling local officials have been “moving too slowly” in the case. Benjamin Crump, the lawyer representing Trayvon Martin's family, says the removal of the police chief is a “step in the right direction.”

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>>> because of you all, the fourth largest state in the united states of america , the state of florida , our governor, rick scott , attorney parks, attorney jackson, and trayvon's parents, miss sabrina fullton and tracy martin has voluntarily removed himself from the case.

>> joining me now from sanford, florida . the reverend al sharpton host of "politics nation" and the head attorney for trayvon martin 's family. reverend al, i want to start with something personal that you shared with everyone watching your show tonight and then everyone at the rally. let's listen to that.

>> i got the news this morning leaving new york that my mother had passed. one side of me said and the other side my mother raised me to stand up for justice . my mother would have been ashamed of me if i wasn't here tonight. my mother raised me to stand with mothers and daddies like that and in her name i'm going to fight until zimmerman meets justice in the courtroom.

>> ref reverend al, i heard about the passing of your mother this morning and i thought for sure you wouldn't be going to florida and when i heard that you were still going to florida , i was just amazed. speaking of someone who lost their mother recently, i couldn't have done anything on the day that she died and when i heard you explain it tonight on your show and then when i heard you say that at the rally, i completely understood why you were there and i'm so sorry for your loss and we all know that your mother would be very, very proud of you tonight.

>> well, thank you for saying that, lawrence . it is very difficult. i don't want to act like it's not. my brother is with me also and we have a family that grew up in the movement and we just feel like this is what she would have wanted us to do.

>> attorney krump, i want to get to the action that the governor took tonight. a lot of things happened during the rally, as far as we could tell. a new prosecutor has been appointed. the governor says he wants to have a task force look into this after the investigation has been complete. tell us about this new prosecutor angela corey? what's your reaction to that?

>> well, we think it's a step in the right direction. we think it never would have happened with you or your viewers talking about it, especially with reverend al's devotion to this cause for justice. it's a step in the right direction but we still don't have an arrest yet. it's more investigating and, you know, you kind of ask, what do we have to investigate? it's a step in the right direction when a leader in the state says the whole world is looking at our state and we need to get this right. so we are cautiously optimistic tonight. we got to keep the pressure on until we get an arrest.

>> reverend al, we both on this show last night talked to mr. bonaparte , the city manager. you did an amazing interview with him tonight. i want to play a little piece of that, beginning with where he explained why chief lee has stepped aside.

>> you once said this was a complete and fair investigation, did you --

>> i said it. the chief said it.

>> do you know believe this has been a fair investigation?

>> i believe the sanford department has done what it could.

>> i've phrased contradictions where you have blatant contradictions with what was said by a police officer and what is actually said on tape and what was actually put in police reports. how could that be fair?

>> it's questionable. absolutely. it's questionable.

>> reverend al, you asked him if it was fair. i felt like we were talking to a how bad this is and trying to work the city's way out of this.

>> no, i think there's no question that your judgment there is correct, in my opinion. and i think that that is why i agree with attorney crump, that what the governor did was sis a step in the right direction and we must monitor and stay on it all the way. because if you have the people at the city level that cannot in a direct way say that this is contradictory, false statements, go ahead and make this arrest, this man should be charged, then you need to take a special because clearly the prosecutor here has lost the confidence of the people and should because they seem to be afraid of what is fair and just in the law.

>> reverend al, they chiefly recognize for the well being of the interview.

>> i think the chief recognizes for the well being , for the justice and murder of trayvon martin being he was becoming more of a distraction and that's why he step aside .

>> what struck me in the middle of that answer was what he called the murder of trayvon martin . murder is a legal term . it means something very different from the death or the killing. it's interesting to me that mr. bonaparte would use that term.

>> it certainly is, lawrence . and it's such a contradiction for what they put on the challenge police report . the initial police report had trayvon martin as the subject which would lead you to suggest that zimmerman was the victim and so i think it's because we keep calling them out, keep calling to the carpet, this kid, based on nothing more than his stereotype of him. and that's what is so hard to his parents.

>> and attorney crump, are you worried about the ballistic tests and on that gun we don't have immediate access to the clothing because there is altercations in the police reference to in the report?

>> you know, lawrence , you're absolutely right. it is challenging because when you look at what the police did, they came and they took zimmerman 's word for the gospel of what happened and they didn't look at anything objectively to look at maybe, just maybe, trayvon martin might be innocent. just maybe his life might be worth taking a background check on the shooter, taking a drug and alcohol analysis, not letting him walk away with physical evidence on his body after talking to him for a couple of hours, even though he just shot this unarmed boy who had a bag of skit tells.

>> reverend, i want to play your interview with mr. bonaparte where he talks about his own experience of problems with the police, what he calls walking while black.

>> i have been found guilty of walking while black. i have been stopped by the police officers . i believe simply because i am plaque. i realize that. i have sons and grandsons. we want to make sure the martin family gets justice.

>> reverend, that's the sen sa built that you want at the city but do you think mr. bonaparte has been moving too slowly?

>> i think that the feeling is that he has been moving too slowly and too cautiously and when he says he's been found guilty, walking while black or being profiled as a black, the question i raise is what are you willing to do about it? because clearly you're not just talking about a culture. you're talking about a crime. people do have and ticketing and otherwise killing you in this case. they do not have that right and let's not act like people that profile and stereotype just have bad habits . some of them are criminal.

>> benjamin crump, thank you for joining me. reverend al, thank you for joining me tonight. thank you for everything that you have done today. it's been a very, very long day for you and your