The Ed Show | October 15, 2012
>>> show." thanks for watching tonight. the math still isn't adding up for mitt romney so the lies are just piling up. this is their campaign. here's romney adviser ed gillespie trying to defend romney 's tax plan.
>> very questionable. some of them are blogs, some from the aei.
>> these are very credible sources.
>> one of them is from a blogger to george w. bush . these are hardly nonpartisan studies.
>> if you look at harvard and other studies, they are very credible sources for economic analysis.
>> you wouldn't say aie is a conservative think tank ?
>> it's a right-leaning think tank . that doesn't make it not credible.
>> those six studies don't hold water. besides the blog posts, two of the studies had had to change romney 's tax plan to make it work. these aren't the only numbers the romney camp is lying about. there was vice presidential candidate paul ryan 's claim about unemployment in the debate.
>> you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is? it's 10%. you know what it was when you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going all around america.
>> rob portman was asked about it and he defended ryan.
>> what he was saying is the truth. unemployment is higher today than it was when he took office. in the meantime, we have created net zero jobs.
>> just throw it out there. it doesn't matter. something is going to stick up here. nothing like backing up lies with more lies. unemployment, my friends, is not higher today than when president obama took office. that's a fact. there have been 325,000 net jobs since president obama 's inauguration. despite all the ground he had to make up from the bush recession, he's created 31 months of private sector job growth and reduced the federal payroll. the obama recovery has produced 4.4 million jobs overall, 5 million in the private sector . let's turn to former governor ted strickland , an obama 2012 campaign co-chair. it's about ohio . do the people believe these guy lyes?
>> i am so proud of ohio because we aren't believing the lies and that's why the president maintains a lead in ohio . ohioans know this economy is coming back in large part because of the recovery act, because of the auto rescue. this president has done a good job. we're on our way forward . we don't want to go back to the failed policies of the bush administration .
>> they are claiming the unemployment numbers, you're cooking the books . they can't stand the fact that the unemployment rate has dropped below 8%. there is a sense that it's headed all in the right direction. but do you feel that independent voters in your state of ohio get that?
>> well, apparently they do. for several months now, the president has maintained a relatively small, but consistent lead. that lead is holding firm during these closing dates of the campaign. i'm proud to say that no republican has ever won the presidency without winning ohio . and i think ohio is going to deprive mitt romney the chance to be the president.
>> the numbers on the tax plan don't add up and he doesn't give specifics. how's he going to navigate through this?
>> he doesn't want to confess.
>> you have a sitting united states senator right there backing what paul ryan is saying. you know rob portman .
>> i know rob very well. but the fact is --
>> he's lying.
>> the only way that the tax plan works, the only thing he can do that really has money in savings is the mortgage deduction. it's the charitable deduction. it's the education deduction. it's the health care deduction. and mitt romney does not have the courage to tell the american people what he's planning. but ed, if he were to take on those deductions, those deductions strike at the heart of the middle class and that's why he's unwilling to tell us the truth. and so that's why we're getting all of this fuzzy math .
>> according to a keizer foundation study, a medicare voucher system would raise premiums. the romney campaign says it wasn't based on their plan but they don't provide details on it either. so how do the democrats keep up the fight against an opponent that lies and denies so often?
>> well, we've got to tell the truth. the fact is, if we just look at this romney budget. paul ryan was chosen to be the vice presidential candidate in large part because of his budget. what does his budget do? it doesn't achieve balance. it would slash medicaid to the states. it would cut pell grants . all the programs so important to the middle class . and now mitt romney is trying to walk away from some of that and appear to be a moderate. but we know in ohio , we have watched this man, we have heard him talk about the 47% and that includes a lot of ohioans and a lot of people from wisconsin and virginia and these battleground states . that's why mitt romney is in trouble.
>> this misinformation is in a fever pitch . are you concerned about these dvds being delivered into ohio ?
>> i'm concerned about all of this. but these kinds of dirty tricks , i think, may have a slight impact. but people are common sense folk. at least in my state of ohio . we understand who is on our side and a man who has a swiss bank account who won't reveal his income tax returns , who talks about enjoying firing people who has elevators for car, who talks about his wife's multiple cadillacs, who is captured on video really talking in the most disrespectful way about hard-working americans, veterans and retired folks and students. there's a scripture verse in the book of proverbs that says, as a man think earth in his heart, so is he. we saw something about mitt romney 's heart in that video and it wasn't a pretty picture.
>> ted strickland , great to have you with us.
>>> coming up, paul ryan stops by a soup kitchen but he didn't exactly pitch in and help out. e.j. dionne will join me for the discussion.
>>> and mitt romney 's economic model is on full display in illinois. jobs are being outsourced to china to turn a profit for bain capital . we're talking to one of the workers whose job is being shipped overseas. stay tuned. new