The Ed Show | December 21, 2010
>> now get some rapid fire response from our panel on these stories. i will get their take on governor barbour's comments about citizens councils in the south. the palin media machine planned a big book signing event in anchorage and i guess could you say it was a total bomb. i want to know if sarah palin 's overexposed or the people she quit on just tired of her and does it affect her presidential ambitions? and a blow for blue states . the new census data shows a shifting population, which means a lot of northern states will lose u.s. house seats in 2012 , while the south and west stand to gain. with us tonight, karen hunter , a journalist and publisher, and also tony blankly , syndicated columnist. great to have both of you with us tonight. let's talk first, tony about, if i can, the census. is this a big pick up, in your opinion, for the republicans and does it make it tougher on president obama to win re-election? how do you think it breaks down?
>> i don't think it affect the president's re-election but it does probably give the republicans five, six, seven extra congressional seats. this was predicted. everybody knows the general growth pattern in the country. now, some of the growth, of course is with hispanic or latino americans, so how they end up rediv vikd the vote in states like texas, we will see whether the next seat for the republicans or not. but generally it is good news at the congressional level for the republicans.
>> arizona, florida, picks up a couple. georgia, nevada, south carolin big winne r. they have four. utah gets another seat and so does washington. and the house loser, illinois, iowa, louisiana, massachusetts, michigan, missouri, new jersey and new york will lose two seats. two seats also from ohio and pennsylvania one with. those are some pretty strong democratic strongholds. those were states that president obama won, karen. how do you see this?
>> yeah, but you know it has gone back and forth, depending on who is running, depending on what is going on at the time, depending whether jobs are taking a forefront or economics or health care . a lot of it depends on what is happening in the country at the time that these folks are running for office and i think that there's a lot of kind of homogeneous activity across the country. doesn't matter if you are from the north or the south it is about the issues that affect people i agree with tony if we have a lot of latinos certain areas that may also tip the scales. i don't think it is as big a deal as we are making out to be.
>> one of the problems that will occur is that in the northern states , where largely democrats will lose seats it will create some friction as the democratic party has to try to figure out who is the sacrificial lamb . in massachusetts, they are going to lose one there is some rumor that barney frank may not run for re-election and there by, let the rest of his fellow democrats not have the to fight it out but that's the kind of thing into the huge deal but create some friction in the party.
>> state like new jersey we now have a republican governor, you know it could go either way and we have gone back and forth over the years. so you know, let's see.
>> l haley harboi all right. haley harbour's comes did he rectify the situation?
>> no he didn't. it overflows out of the mouth. as i was saying to reverend sharpton in the green room , a certain time, a certain age, we forget. we need to have a dialogue in this country about race it is not black and white . this is a time he grew up in where white supremacy and holding onto this whiteness was just something part and parcel of what this country was b.
>> this is really unfair to haley . i read the article request in "the weekly standard " and i have it with me, where he was asked a question, why was yazoo city he lived energy his brother was mayor, his older brother, why was yazoo constituent only municipality in mississippi and elsewhere that did not have a problem with integration and his response specifically to that was in his town, the council had opposed the klan and he he didn't say, the article i read in "time" magazine in 1970 , said they encouraged white people to sport public schools and not runaway from them. so he was responding --
>> the reality of history. the council were racist organizations founded on racist -- you can't say it is unfair.
>> you are absolutely right. the white council was racist but in yazoo city he was scad particular question and gave the answer in thinks particular town, that the moment they support the integration.
>> so, what's unfair, tony? ?
>> what's unfair is saying that he was --
>> yes or no?
>> he wasn't defending white councils across the south.
>> sure, he was.
>> no i read the article. here is the article right here.
>> i read it, too. yes.
>> he was asked --
>> what are you saying is we didn't lynch people, the council didn't lynch people.
>> that's not what he said.
>> no as brutal as the klan . we didn't like the klan . they were making bad for us.
>> you are making that up. he didn't say that he gave a very specific answer to that question. now, look, there's another matter. most people, i don't think hayley was a hero or villain and most people, north and south , black and white , were not heroes or villains in the struggle. there were some of each, but when you look for instance, at martin luther king , he had to get black people to testimony mon straight.
>> we need to have a discussion about it. mandatory reading --
>> you can't deny t tony blankley , great tough back with us.
>> good to be back one.
>> karen hunter , always a pleasure.