The Ed Show | December 15, 2010
>> get some rapid-fire response from our panel on these stories. more foxy leaks. new e-mails. to push conservative talking points on climate change. and the house's historic vote to repeal don't ask, don't tell is marred by some ugly republican talk about gay americans. i think they're on the wrong side of history on this issue and so do the american people , the major istamericans. with us tonight karen hunter journalist and publisher and also heidi harris radio talk show host out of las vegas . karen, it's up to the senate to do something on don't ask, don't tell, how is this going to play out.
>> i'm praying that it place out sensibly. i'm praying that the people in the senate realize that our army is thin. we need everyone that you know anyone who is coming to the table who wants to fight for this country should have the right to fight for this country. ed, you remember a time when blacks couldn't fight in the army. you remember a time in this country when people were judged based on the color of their skin and now what are they afraid of? i'm so baffled by this that it's even coming to this and all of the ugliness that's coming out of it. it's so strange, it's so weird, it's so un-american.
>> listen to what a texas congressman said on the floor today during the debate.
>> to my friend who said, history will judge us poorly, i would submit, if you will look thoroughly at history and i'm not saying it's cause and effect but when militaries throughout history throughout the greatest nations of the world that have adopted policy to define homosexuality to be overt, keep it private -- if you can't that's fine too, they're toward the end of their existence as a great nation.
>> heidi, are we towards were the end of our existence as a great nation if wea, allow gays to serve.
>> they already served but serve openly is going to strengthen our military. there are a lot of people who have already said they're going to leave the military. i hope there are tons of openly gay people who want to fill the ranks if a lot other people don't want to be part of the military anymore. there's no argument that says it's going to make our military better. it's a social experiment because that's what the left wants and there's no benefit to the military whatsoever.
>> heidi, so you condone people not who they are so they should be you know pretend something like they're not?
>> i don't quite get your argument that --
>> that's exactly right, karen, because when you join the military they shave your head. you all dress the same, sleep in the same place, march the same.
>> that's fine. -- you don't stop being black, hispanic, asian, or gay. that's part of who are. if that's part of your makeup you can't stop doing that either.
>> all they care is can you march the same way, fire the gun the same way.
>> what are they afraid they're going to have sex on the front lines .
>> they do that now but you're talking about them being openly gay , what does that mean walk differently, what does that mean.
>> i don't think that it means anything to be honest with you.
>> then they shouldn't worry about it.
>> exactly, so they should pass the law and let people be who they are.
>> be all that you can be, is that what it is.
>> and serve this country. are you going to go on the front lines i don't think so.
>> go work in the coffee shop . unit cohesion, individuality's out the door when you join the military.
>> but you don't stop being who you are.
>> it moves to the senate. ladies, thanks for joining us tonight. karen hunter and heidi harris on this issue.