The Daily Rundown   |  October 12, 2012

The more the merrier?

Today’s Deep Dive featured a look at third party candidates and their role in battleground states. Gary Johnson, Libertarian presidential candidate, offers his unique perspective as a third party candidate on the ballot in 48 out of 50 states.

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>>> it's been 160 years since the u.s. has had a president that wasn't either a republican or democrat and that was willard filmore. of course, that third party, the republican, became one of the two major parties. no actual third party candidate has won since. but that hasn't stopped them from trying and although their track record of victory is zero, a handful of nonmajority candidates have imagined to impact presidential races. there was ross perot and he wasn't thinking spoiler. he was actually thinking victory. a gallup poll at one point had him ahead of incumbent bush and a man by the name of bill clinton by 14. he left the race and returned in october for the debates and it's the second time that an independent candidate had participated.

>> what separates me is that 5 1/2 million people came together on their own and put me on the ballot. i was not put on the ballot by either of the two parties or any pac money , any foreign lobbyist money or interest money. this is a movement that came from the people.

>> on election day , nearly 20% of the vote, best showing since the progressives nominated eddie roosevelt 38 years ago. bill clinton won the vote. the same year, ralph nader launched a write-in campaign. nader 's best showing was in 2000 when he received 2.9 million votes. gore won the popular vote that year. in florida, nader got over 97,000 votes. i would say that was enough to make up for the 537,000 gap that made up the race for george w. bush . some people called him a spoiler but nader hated the term. he blasted "the wall street journal ," believe it or not, for using such a political bigoted word. he argued that candidates shouldn't be treated as second-class citizen. earlier this year, ron paul made a run for the republican nomination finishing second in multiple primaries before dropping his bid. he gave hope to some other candidates trying to pick up the third-party mantel. they could have an impact where voters may be dissatisfied. former congressman is on the ballot in eight of the nine battleground state . jill stein is on the battle in seven of them. and if you live in nevada and don't like any of the candidates, you can vote none of the above . but the best opportunity to impact this race may belong to the libertarians and the former governor for new mexico , gary johnson . cnn orc poll last month found johnson polling 3% of the voters nationwide. the chairman of the rnc, reince priebus, says he's not worried about a gary johnson .

>> well, understand that they are not going to throw their vote away when we have an election here that's about the future of the america. i just don't see that happening. in fact, i see that it's almost a nonfactor. and so i -- i'm not worried about it.

>> with me now, former new mexico governor and a republican when he was governor in new mexico , gary johnson . governor johnson , good morning.

>> chuck, great to be with you. thank you.

>> let me ask you this. what are you advocating that you don't think is being advocated by either president obama or mitt romney ?

>> let's not bomb iran, let's get out of afghanistan tomorrow, bring the troops home, marriage equality , that it's a constitutional right. i would have never signed the defense authorization act. balance the federal budget now. eliminate income tax , corporate tax , abolish the irs and replace that with one federal consumption tax which i think really will create tens of millions of jobs given a zero corporate tax rate environment.

>> well, you made that fairly easy. you ticked down that. but you can go into the details on this. as you know, a lot of those things could get accomplished given the two party duopoly in congress. but many of the issues that you're advocating are positions one or the other holds. so marriage equality , the obama/biden ticket is tfully supportive of that. balancing the budget now you say there is a big chunk of the republican party that advocates that. a lot of your views are being represented, though all just not in the same party. is that a fair statement?

>> i think so but maybe not a fair statement from the standpoint that i think both parties give lip service to, for example, democrats give lip service to no military intervention when the reality is, continued military intervention . republicans give lip service to a balanced budget but, gentlemen gee, let's do it in 28 years and factor in growth to make that happen and both parties are debating on who is going to spend more money on medicare when medicare is a budget buster. we need to engage in mutual sacrifice to save this country and medicare is something that has to be cut. it's a benefit that you and i put $30 into and receive $100 benefit. by extension, we put $30,000 into a benefit that we're receiving $100,000 benefit. it's not sustainable as so many things are right now with government.

>> let me ask you this. are you comfortable with the fact that you could swing, say, colorado when i think about libertarian, particularly in the west, has always had an out sized appeal versus the east coast . so let's say in colorado president obama wins 48-47, you nab 5% of the vote and we see in our exit polls that 80% of your supporters would have voted romney had there only been two choices there. are you comfortable with that?

>> five states have put that to the question. in new mexico , colorado , and in nevada, i take more votes away from obama. north carolina , michigan, i take more votes away from romney. most important of all is a voice for what i think saves american, is a voice for all of the issues that do face this country that both political parties have their head in the sand over. last night's debate, the debate last week, which tastes better, coke or pepsi?

>> and what are you?

>> man, i'm perriet. i'm sparkling water.

>> all right. i've got to leave it there. i've got to say, i was very impressed with how quickly that litamy rig litany at the top.

>> i want everybody to waste their vote on me and i'm the next president of the united states .

>> fair enough, governor johnson . thanks for coming in this morning.