Panel: What to expect from the VP debate

>> virginia and florida, flohva as we like to call it. but there's a fight in the airwaves that's going on spending millions on ads just like these.

>> victims, dependent, that's what mitt romney called 47% of americans, including people on medicare.

>> for many middle class families, medicaid is the only way to afford the care, but as a governor. mitt romney raised nursing home fees ability times an his budget cuts medicaid by one-third.

>> joining me now, former spokesman for the democratic congressional campaign committee doug foreign nell and from the now romney superpack. so we could really walk out on the house debate. ann i want to put up our top ten markets, these are the most saturated ad markets for the eighth through the 14th. norfolk, cleveland, florida, virginia plus ro colorado. flohva and then colorado, iowa, wisconsin those are the six.

>> this is the map, this is the place that we all want to visit and the people there probably want to flee by now. we have known this map from the outset and the map hasn't changed. that's one of the interesting things. despite all the ups and downs , we are in this same map.

>> that is an interesting point that, is that a yellow flag for romney ? he's doing well, everything's popped for him. but you know the map hasn't changed.

>> but the map has gotten better. before the debate, we saw it tight. si since the debate, he's not within the margin of error, he's going to be up. i think going into the 12re67, he's exactly where he needs to be.

>> you're not concerned that the maps never really expanded.

>> they expanded to wisconsin and they got the other team off there. we're still in north carolina new jersey.

>> we always wish we were in pennsylvania and michigan.

>> a dull digit lead that some thought the president had in ohio is now inside the margin of error. yes, he's still ahead by most of the counts of private polling. but he can't afford another bad debate performance.

>> i don't think anyone really believed that the president was going to win ohio . i think most people who follow this race know that it's going to be close. the president's still leading in ohio , the people in ohio know mitt romney . he's spent a lot of time there and he's closed the gap a little bit, but he hasn't led yet.

>> what is the test? this is romney 's best week, the first major bounce, he didn't get one after the nomination convention . if he's not leading in a state at the end of this week, is that a state he can't win?

>> i think he's defining the narrative this week. he said we're going to talk about foreign policy this week, i think he's controlling the debate. they're in reaction mode and he's very, very well positioned.

>> i would like to see how enduring this bounce is, let's give it a week now and see if it's still there. he had a really great 90 minutes , i think it's surprising that the president could really lutz ground after just a 90-minute appearance.

>> it shows he was not maybe as strong as -- things are closer than they appear.

>> i want to see it after a little more time.

>> mitt romney was asked about what programs he would cut during the debate. he could name obama care and pbs, pbs counts for less than .5%. he has not been forthright with america on what he's going to do.

>> do you think it was to have a little fun with big bird , 24 or 48 hours , but a week later?

>> basically mitt romney has not been forth right on what programs he's going to cut