The Cycle | January 28, 2013
>>> i consider hillary a strong friend.
>> i mean, very warm, close. i think there's a sense of understanding that, you know, sometimes doesn't even take words because we have similar views.
>> wow. the bitter rivals are not so bitter anymore. president obama and hillary clinton sat down with "60 minutes" last night in their first-ever joint interview. secretary hillary 's last day on the job is friday.
>> going away party?
>> something like that. but for how long?
>> you guys in the press are incorrigible and i was literally inaugurated four days and talking about elections four years from now.
>> i don't think either he or i can make predictions of tomorrow or the next year.
>> since the president has called us incorrigible, we might as well live up to the title.
>> literally. literally.
>> literally spin on it. you know, i don't think there was any big news broke anna nicole this interview at all except her answer on 2016 was kind of interesting. very vague, very leaving the door open. we'll see what the future holds kind of a deal but to me it was remarkable. they looked like besties. it seems like a genuine warmth and friendship. leaning in. smiling.
>> you're hilarious. no, you're hilarious.
>> tell me more about how great you are. to think back to 2008 , seriously, though, and the rivalry there and how ugly it was at times --
>> you're likable enough, hillary , to this moment is pretty remarkable.
>> that clip we just put out. you could see the violence there. shaking his head at her. ooh!
>> i maintain 2008 race was extra long and extra drawn out and suspenseful although it wasn't the ugliest. there have been far more uglier than that and wasn't a great philosophical divide and talking about 2016 , that's somewhat of the context of this interview, at least people like to talk about it that way. i was trying to imagine another player.
>> great artist.
>> vice president. wait. this is my -- i looked in through the naval observatory . this is casa biden last night. got the campaign sign on the wall. obama '16 because why not? watching them on tv.
>> is he slouching the way this steve slouches?
>> that's good vice presidential posture there and saying, jill, how do i change it to fox?
>> mibl a serial killer .
>> i'm glad you got the right message of the drawing. that's so interesting to me about all this is that obama --
>> drawing skills?
>> that's what it is.
>> you're incorrigible.
>> the popular second term president and we'll see where obama 's popularity is a couple of years from now but the popularity in the party never dropped below 80% and the popular second term president anoints the successor and a role of the vice presidential pick. your vice president is the successor. we are in a weird situation where the natural heir is hillary clinton . we saw last night, i don't think it's dramatic or a great statement on clinton's part, this is it, i'm passing the torch but a validation of what we know is the basic dynamic of two years. she is the natural heir to most people in this party. if she decides she wants to run in this case, rock joe biden will run and other people will run. i think of al gore in 2000 . the clinton white house basically cleared out the democratic party . al gore won 33 of 33 contested events that year. if hillary wants to run in 2016 , i think that is it. if she doesn't, biden is the heir apparent and i think a front-runner but a more crowded field.
>> i think all that math is correct, obviously. i don't think joe biden watched that show last night and worried. he's got three, four more years. two more runs before they start to run and he has to start -- gets to stand next to the president and be -- look sort of look presidential. i don't think he's worried. i don't think as it as an endorsement last night. the chatting class, oh, endorsement. passing the scepter to her. why would the president do that three days after he's inaugurated an ennow a lame duck. talk object who's next. this is about gratitude and sending her out on a big note. love your enemy. after they fought so hard, not the hardest ever, hillary sort of standing there at the end. what was she saying yelling at him, you are wrong, braarack obama .
>> please vote for me.
>> after that and to come to this place of reconciliation, we're together and friends. i know, i thought it was a great moment for the democratic party in that we don't hold the fights, the grudges. we move on.
>> yeah. i agree. i don't think it's an endorsement moment either for hillary but i did read a little in it the other way. barack obama is a very, very smart politician and i think also very interested in his long-term legacy. and i think he's thinking ahead to hillary clinton running in 2016 , knows she might have to pitch to the center a little bit. and doesn't want her to sort of expose maybe some of the secrets over the past four years and i want -- i think he wants to sort of keep her close and going to be complimentary. give her the going away party. he's going to make sure that when she leaves it's as a friend and not as someone who's going to feel comfortable telling tales out of school. now, no one expects in 2016 for her to throw obama under the bus. it wouldn't be smart. she's also a very crafty, clever politician. and people have called her ruthless in the past and i'm sure he's thinking, calculation, you know, call lating ahead. i just want to make sure i do the right thing by hillary and make sure i'm sending her on her way happy.
>> she's extremely popular right now so him to be her and associated with her. it is a no-lose for him. we're not the only ones talking about hillary clinton 's next move. facebook fans have been weighing in all day. heaven hart says seemed in 2008 people weren't as ready for a female president but the times are changing rapidly. i would be proud to see her be the first hillary 2016 . heaven hart.
>> great name.
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