The Cycle | December 03, 2012
>> what makes hillary hillary is strength, toughness, very strong streak of principle. what makes all of that kind of bearable for the rest of us is when you get to know her, really incredible humor and humanity. that's what makes people not just like her but love her.
>> oh, isn't she dreamy?
>> yes, she is.
>> that's from the annual middle east conference forum where hillary was treated like a queen. there was a short film highlights her many career accolades and aachievements. no wonder the new yorker says she's running in 2016 . this couldn't have been scripted bertd for her. leaving ahead of any benghazi fallout, everybody is begging her to stay. i wouldn't be surprised if there are floor plans for bubba's man cave. let's shed some light on this in the spin cycle. it seems like it was ordained by god. she's leaving just as this scandal is brewing. i mean, might not even touch her. i'm talking about benghazi, of course, even though it directly involves her department. she's on her way out. people are begging her to stay. already talking about when to see more of her. it really does look like everything is coming up roses for hillary . that said, i don't know that she's ever really faced the wrath of the gop machine in its fullest, when you think back to 2008 . the gop machine was sort of split, split in its attention to obama and others as well as hillary . i don't know that she ever got its full attention. of course, back in her senate run, i don't know that anyone thinks that rick lazio was really the --
>> nothing against rick. he's a great guy. i don't know that she's been fully tested. then again, i don't know that anything is worse than what democrats did to her in 2008 . that was a pretty tough test, and i don't know. maybe that almost ininoculated her against the worst of it for 2016 . there's really nothing else left to do. what do you think, steve?
>> i think she got a little rougher treatment from republicans from about 1992 to 2007 .
>> all of those years, yes.
>> something about whitewater and the rose law firm . i vaguely recall somewhere in there where they hated hillary clinton and they threw everything they had at her. pat buchanan at the 1992 convention in houston saying, you know, it's clinton and clinton . this rad kl feminist lawyer. we always forget at the start of the 2008 cycle, obama was the underdog and he was going to lose. that was the conventional wisdom. clinton was the bigger front-runner and republicans treated her that way. they wanted to fight the clinton restoration. they were treating obama as this well-meaning, good-natured reformer who would get mowed down by the ruthless, vindictive clinton machine. i always remember the moment and late winter and early spring of 2008 when it became clear obama would beat her. suddenly the right conservatives, republicans saying she was a radical jane fonda suddenly rediscovered hillary clinton as a white working class hero . she was like franc rizzo all of a sudden. the story of the last four years for hillary clinton is republicans laid down for her, and democrats have started -- the democrats with obama and resented her then have gotten over t. the iraq thing is a distant memory. we thought she was the dwroefr whelming front-runner in '08. we were wrong.
>> only hillary can stop hillary at this point. we talk about the republican war machine . this year or the last few years dealing with this imagined obama that didn't exist rather than aattacking the person in the oval office . had they done that, they might have a better chance than dealing with this imagined kenyan, socialist, marxist obama , and if they do that to hillary , they will entirely lose. this is an incredible resume. widely admired and no skeletons in the closet . we know this person extraordinarily well. have we seen a household name like this enter the presidential race? i don't think we have. the biggest thing in iraq was the problem in '08. will not be the problem next time. the biggest problem is generally voters don't give the same party three times in a row. we saent seen the demographic trends against the gop . we have never seen the gop spinning out into the far right like we have this time. so i think it's hillary he 2016 .
>> yeah. i am with you, and it's a beautiful thing because i love this woman. another thing i would point out is, you know, just as republicans are over this election and probably looking to hillary and going, oh, we got to take down these approval ratings a bit, she's going to be out of politics. she's going to do good around the world and basically immune to political criticism. i think the approval ratings if anything will continue to climb. the thing i was really thinking about here and i don't want to put the cart before the horse too much, even though i'd love to. it's entirely possible that my daughter, who is 4 now, will wake up when she's 16 and the only two presidents she will have known in her lifetime are an african-american man and a woman. that, to me, is an incredible thing, and i don't know we even know yet how important that could be for the country and for barriers in this country. what the 2012 election, candy corn , oreos and a newly preggers have in common. they're all top searches in 2012 . what else made the list. taking us to break still catchy number one song