The Cycle | November 27, 2012
>>> if logged onto facebook in the past few days. the fake copyright notice is circulating preying on the privacy fears of users. thousands of facebookers believed the hoax cutting and pasting it on the walls believing it protects their content under copyright laws . facebook says what you put out there is fair game . those rules may change again. tomorrow is the deadline for uus users to weigh in to share it with insta gram. also proposed is doing away with your right to decide who messages you. this, eliminating your right to vote on proposed new rules. this has a lot of people talking today. let's backspin it. there are a couple of issues here. you will no longer have control in facebook who messages you. it could flood your inbox with spam, that's the immediate downside. there's a bigger issue with google , for instance. everybody uses google to search and there's google plus. your online life can be built around google if you want, g mail, all these things. what happens and what google was trying to do this year was to sort of create and use all their different online products and your activity on them to create an online profile of you. to use what you search for and to use what's in the terms in your e-mails. if there's something with google plus, they can kind of create an idea that that is what your personality is. i think that the personality of people online, they assume there's a cloak there so people let parts of themselves sort of show online that they otherwise would. i think there's a story in the times last week about --
>> like what, steve? be specific.
>> there's a couple ways to read that statement like anthony weiner would say. google auto complete. start asking a question about something. you find out what people -- you and about john boehner , you don't ask about the fiscal cliff or the tax plan. they ask if john boehner is gay. is joe biden , stupid, retards, gay, jewish, smart? these are the smart. these are the things that pop up.
>> gay is like always.
>> gay is up there. mormon is up there a lot. bill belichick , the patriots coach, is bill bielichick gay, a mormon, a cheater.
>> sideline cheater.
>> it's interesting that this profile, i think people don't maybe appreciate that everything you're searching -- there are people who are putting this all together and saying that's who this guy is.
>> that reminds me of a funny story from thanks lelast year. a guy on twitter told his dad twitter was a search engine . so his dad started entering questions into twitter and they went up as posts. some examples, how do you pronounce juan? national geographic dinosaur truth. can i bring a tupperware of chili on an airplane. i don't know if this was real or fake but it was really, really funny. people don't realize, the internet is not a gated community . what you say is going to be up there. that said i'm a little disappointed in facebook . i thought the whole point was to democratize the internet and bring people together and protect your own little community and instead now it seems like they're almost something of a dictatorship saying you're not going to get to vote in these decisions and we're going to steal your information and share it with whomever they want. it might make me want to not be on facebook .
>> bottom line is the bottom line for them.
>> but i find the whole discussion that they're saying you're saying very disappointing, but everybody has to remember, the internet never forgets. whatever you put on facebook , you can not be hired because of what you get on facebook . or you could not get a boyfriend or girlfriend because of what they will find about you on facebook . it's never lost and the people who are living on facebook and putting these pictures on themselves at a party or what have you, won't want that picture out there in ten years. the internet never forgets. you will be regretting the amount you gave to facebook --
>> why are you looking at me?
>> i'm not, krystal. what, what?
>> to that point, you know, i think facebook is trying to make money, and what we have seen is basically as consumers we have sent a message we are not willing to pay for stuff on the internet. so we are paying with our personal data instead. and one thing i think that could be helpful that i was reminded of is the consumer financial protection bureau has put together these simplified forms for credit cards and mortgages so that consumers have an easier time understanding what they're getting into and i think this problem of what are we exactly getting ourselves into when we sign up for facebook and other social networking services would be helpful. some sort of form that is easily understood, transparent, at least then consumers have some opportunity to educate themselves.
>> there's the next great market opening. it's for some sort of product that will protect you from all these sinister data gathering things that facebook and google has.
>> who would vote for in the future i can't vote for anything. who would vote for you th -- that?
>> grover norquist is the talk of the town in washington.