The Cycle | September 25, 2012
>>> strange. see, there's this odd pop culture icon he's become.
>> hi, mr. chopra.
>> dr. chopra.
>> and then there's the truth or my version of it, of whom my dad really is.
>> that's a clip from "decoding deepak ," a documentary about spiritual deepak . it's an attempt to show viewers deepak the dad. if he wasn't busy enough, deepak 's out today with a new
book called, "god: a story of revelation." with us now is deepak chopra . welcome.
>> thanks for having me.
>> tell us about the book. what were you setting out to do here?
>> the way i started the book is i came across a new york times article from the 1930s , and it was a meeting between the indian philosopher and einstein. this is just when hitler was starting his psychosis for the collective mind. they met outside berlin in 1930 , and they talked about why we're here, why is there a universe, is there a consciousness behind the universe, is there a god, is there a soul, is there a death? i noticed nobody had picked up on this article from 1930 . but it's there. i googled it. i backtracked from einstein to job in the old testament and saw how our interfrom iation of god has evolved from job to st. paul to socrates to shankara. so actually this is a brief history of god and to rumi.
>> it's interesting to me. for them a project in common is they try to look at the various versions of god or prophets and creation stories and what they have in common and it seems as though you're trying to say in this book that those stories and our ideas of god have changed markedly over the years.
>> well, listen. we now know that 70% of the university is dark universe , 730% is dark matter . that the university began 40 million years ago in something called the big bang . so some of those ideas are really mythologies. they don't jive with what we know about creation at the moment, and yet there are certain things that are in common, right from the beginning. there's a sense that's beyond the visible world, something that's beyond space and cause causali causality, something that's visible. there are the platonic values of goodness, truth, beauty, harmony, love, compassion, joy, equanimity which are essential in every religion and then there's the fear of the loss of death because there's the concept of the eternal existence of the soul. those things didn't gogo away. they didn't go away even with our modern understanding of cause mollg cause mollgy. so i what i've done is track thad and said while religion in its strict interpretation might not be literally as true as we'd like to believe it, yet the religious experience remains, whether it was jesus or st. paul or shankara or any of the great teachers of humanity.
>> deepak , the story is called "god."
>> democrat the story of revelation."
>> who is god.
>> the story of evolution. and we would say he's the creator of space, time, energy, matter, cosmos, the author of everybod evolution ultimate truth, love, compassion, joy, and peace augment. that's what god is. if you want to be tech anything cal about it, god is the cosmic mind in which there's a naoto technology workshop that creates the universe literally. the moment we look at the university from the window of modern science , the more it looks mind like than machine-like. the universe is not a physical machine. it works like your body works. your body has a hundred trillion cells which is more than the cells in the milkiway galaxy. er cell is tracking what every other cell is doing. how does a human body thing thoughts, play piano, make a baby all at the same time because your biological rhythms are a symphony of the universe and you dance to the music even though you can't name the tune. this is so mind-boggling that there's no physical ef explanation for it. there's a mind and it's only nipny tanlt, on nish ant, on knee press ant and you can't change.
>> one of the things that fascinates me in my generation there's been a decline in practiced organization, going to church. but still there's been more of a do it yourself phase.
>> right. the questions don't go away.
>> can you gel get the fulfillment without being part of an organized religion ?
>> i think that's the future of religion. it's going to be secular, universal, hold onto the truths of organized religion . organized rehiggs has always done a lot of good. we always looks at the bad things like the war but look at the humanitarian work of mother teresa and the dalai lama. he'll say he's not organized but he represents buddhism. thing the future, especially in the global environmental we live in with social networks and media and people can watch us now anywhere on the planet, they'll gradually go in the area of secular religion alt. they'll hold onto and say how do i have it myself. if you look at the moon and point at it, you worship the moon, not the finger. there's a direction to a all of this. it's happening by itself actually which is wonderful.
>> the book is "god: the story of revelations." sometime we can switch glasses, yes?
>> i can get you better glasses than this.
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