PoliticsNation | March 08, 2013
>>> karl rove has a problem, a tea party problem. ron paul is the gop man of the moment. fresh off his marathon filibuster, he's the life of the party and the views on civil rights , religion and the role of government are all way out there. but he's not going away.
>> how seriously are you looking at 2016 ?
>> we're looking at it very seriously. i think our party needs something new, fresh and different.
>> and then u there's texas senator ted cruz . the man who called president obama the most radical president we've ever seen. and he'll be front and center at the rnc event this weekend with some of the parties biggest leaders. but senator mccain is not a big fan of either tea party star. when "the huffington post " asked if they were a party to either star, he paused for six seconds and said "they were elected. nobody believes there was a corrupt election. anything else"? but i always believe it's the whacko birds on the right and the left that get the media megaphone. whacko birds? this is a party at war. and now that the rnc is going after carl rove 's plan to target unelected presidents.
>> historically, if you look at it, it's a bit of a fool's game because you can't actually predict some of the thing that is go on.
>> a fool's game? this is a party in need of a political intervention. and it could only help president obama 's agenda. let's bring in angela and brian grim.
>>> you know, angela , when he starts calling the rising stars of the gop whacko birds, it can't be good news for the party . can the gop save itself from the civil war ?
>> i don't think that it can. and i can honestly say maybe this is the maverick john mccain coming back. you saw him challenged. he challenged rand paul on the senate floor on this whole concept of protest politics. and a filibuster is exactly that. this is him tricking the american people , or at least those who believed him, into thinking he's actually acting. and he's not guilty. he's not. he's almost boy koting his job.
>>> senator mckaicain is saying absolutely not. he's certainly cruising for a bruising.
>> cruising for a bruising. all right, ryan, let me say this. we showed chairman of the rnc carl rove 's plan to get after far right candidates fool's gold. and the conservative organize saifrgs, freedom works , is out with an ad against karl rove for trying. watch this.
>> are you willing to sit back and watch karl rove and his unprincipled, establishment candidates take over the gop ? join freedom works and go to notkarlsparty.com. sign the petition to give karl rove a piece of your mind. it's not your party , karl.
>> they seem to be openly going at each other's throats here.
>> right, you know, often, when they say, hey, this party that just lost this election needs to rethink its future, they end up not doing that. but karl rove and the other folks in the republican party have kind of forced this conversation on to the republican party . this is more than rethinking. you're right. they are at war with each other. and democrats are just absolutely loving it. what's better for them than republicans spending their own money attacking each other and tearing themselves down all the way into this midterm election . the longer they do this, the better chance that democrats have to actually take the house this next and then give obama the last two years of his presidency to actually get some legislation through. until democrats are back in control of the house, the republicans, no matter how poorly they do on the national stage, can continue to block the progressive agenda.
>> now, angela , this weekend, the rnc is meet iing -- holding its big meeting in florida. tea party candidate ted cruz is front and center. also appearing is scott walker , chris christie , jeb bush , marco rubio . question. does this mean that cruz has made it to the mainstream of the gop ?
>> no. it means that he's gotten the media attention that he's been so desperately seeking. he has literally been showing out, like old folks say, in every instance he can possibly find. he went on the senate floor and quoted tweet after tweet about staying with rand. nobody cares . he is literally disrespecting and beraiding the attorney general in this country. so the media is paying attention and that's exactly what he wants. in addition, you talked about scott walker . the same scott walker that was trying to totally obliterate labor unions . you also think about rick scott who is responsible for voter suppression efforts in florida. their party is going in the wrong direction in terms of trying to grow its base. it's shrinking because there are only so many white males that continue to grow the gop base. the rest of america doesn understand or care about this. it's not karl rove 's party ad groups to par tis pat in these ad campaigns. it doesn't make you more real vant. your message is wrong.
>> you noticed that, huh?
>> let me ask you this. i've got to go. not all of this helps them because look at the fact that the civil war has not helped them in their struggle. they are 20 points lower than president obama . in the polls, president obama 49% positive ratings, republicans, 29 pntd. in the middle of the civil war , they're losing the big war with the democrats, if they're fooigting at all.
>> and i think that unpopularity actually helps people like ted cruz because republicans are genuinely without philosophy and without leaders. ted cruz is saying hey, that doesn't fit with our message. so without anybody to be able to say no, no, that's wrong, then he's welcomed. they're just going to throw everything up against the wall and they're going to see what sticks over the next 2-4 years.
>> thank you both for your time tonight. and both of you have a great weekend.
>> thank you, rev, you, too.
>> my flsh.
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