Does the GOP need a fresh face?

>>> there's something really fishy going none washington. and senator rand paul is determined to get to the bottom of it. it turns out those big spenders in d.c. are just throwing away money on gold fish .

>> if there's a way that money can be moved around, the military spent $2.5 million on gold fish to see how democratic they were and if we could learn about democracy from gold fish .

>> learn about democracy from gold fish ? i mean what's he even talking about? turns out, he has no clue himself. a professor behind the research says, " senator paul got the funding wrong and the species wrong and he misrepresents the work we've done." how's that for the new and improved gop ? this guy's been flooded as the 2016 presidential candidate . he's a leading speaker at this year's cpac conference and making up stories about fish? gold fish to be exact. anyone see the problem here? and yet, the right keeps continuing to blame the left for their trouble.

>> it makes me ashamed that we have sunk and descended to this level in our politics in order for the left to have to -- or be able to advance. they require ignorance. the left has beaten us. they have created far more low information, unaware, uneducated people than we've been able to keep up with.

>> you're right about one thing, rush, the left's beaten you. but you and your party are the reason why. joining me now is angela wry and dana millbank. dana , a big time excuse from rush. what does it say about the state of the gop ?

>> well, i don't know. i think that perhaps rush limbaugh and rand paul and others should be studying gold fish to learn how to keep their mouths shut. because they seem to dig themselves in deeper and deeper here. there's been a lot of blaming that's going on every now and then. you think they sort of come to grips with the election defeat. and, no, they're going to go on saying well, it's about the technology. well, it's because the voters were ignore aant. well, it's because the democrats tricked them. well, there is something about the way we reached out to them, the way the message was. they're just not grasping that. the electorate is fundamentally changed to an electorate that is supporting gay marriage , to an electorate that is increasingly latino, that an electorate that is significantly compromised of women. so it's a matter of not understanding where the electorate has gone and pointing fingers at everything else.

>> angela , i always say a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut. but you know, today we learn that the roster for cpac has now increased. we had mit romney , sarah palin , rand paul , allen west , and wayne lapierre . now i'm sure we'll have one that will have you and dana definitely wanting to go hear the great orator, rick perry is going to speak. what do you think, angela ?

>> whoo! just kidding. first and foremost, we have to talk about what is going on with the gop . the gop has, i think, a three-fold problem. it's the message. it's the messengers and the audienced audience is the person people who don't care to hear what they're talking about, whether it's on cpac or fox or some other media outlet, the message isn't resonating in part because when you look at the changing dem graphics of this country, they have got to at some point start talking about social issues because folks vote wholistically. what is the candidate talking about that makes sense to me? how does it impact me? and then at some point we have to address the humanity of politics, compassion and concern for your neighbor. all of which for some reason the republican party is so distant from, it just doesn't make any sense.

>> but, you know, i think that -- cpac is the big conservative, you know, conference. it's their big main event every year. dana , let me ask you a serious question. here's a picture of governor chris christie of new jersey seated next to michelle obama , the first laid yes at the national governor's association dinner last night. now let me ask you a question. i just announced that -- i just reported rick perry is speaking at cpac . yet, the gop has still not seemingly got over christie speaking well of the president and working with him around hurricane relief because he has yet to be announced as a cpac speaker. how could someone with his high poll numbers, with his high standing with republican polls not be invited to speak at cpac ?

>> it's a good question. cpac is a very important event. i do like to go there every year and cover it. i'll be asking for combat pay from msnbc to do so again this year. and it's an interesting question. for years now it has been cpac was essentially the voice of the republican party that had gone in this conservative direction. is that changing now? are people like chris christie going to push back against that? marco rubio could be a person who could, clearly. i expect him to see there at cpac . i wouldn't be surprised if they close ranks with the new jersey governor as well. the question is are people in the party going to start standing up to this or is it going to be, you know, cpac is quite literally dominated by the nation national rifle association and the other special interests of the right.

>> now angela , over the weekend governor bobby jendal was pressed on social issues. he was pressed on social issues. watch this.

>> we're offering in the republican party a different solution which is about growth, not austerity. it's not about big banks, big wall street . it's truly conservative. is that a chafrpgs can ynge i support.

>> we didn't present a vision showing how we believe the entire economy can grow.

>> afrngela, you saw he ran away from dealing with the social issue and ran back to economic issues. i mean can the gop deal with social issues and ever deal with the fact that it was not economic issues alone that led to their losing last year?

>> well, let's just say this, rev, if they don't, they'll have a really difficult time winning future elections.

>> angela wry and dana milbank , thanks for coming on the show tonight.

>> thank you.

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