PoliticsNation | February 25, 2013
>>> pointed her finger in president obama 's last year. she's no fan of the president. she couldn't wait to point that out. but with the automatic budget cuts set to go into effect in just four days, republican and democratic governors gathered in washington this weekend and they're starting to freak out. they're not pointing at the president anymore. they're pointing their blame on the republicans in congress.
>> is it a greater danger to deal with the cuts or a greater dachger for the economy for republicans to give in on raising taxes .
>> we do not like taxes. we don't like increase in taxes. but, you know, we have to be pragmatic. there has to be some type of compromise. but dang it, they need to get the job done. they don't need to leave the public out there hanging.
>> a tea party governor suggesting compromise on taxes? it's not just governor brewer. other republican governors are telling their colleagues in congress it's time to go back to the bargaining table.
>> the uncertainty is harming our states.
>> the sequester was put in place to be a hammer, not a policy. now we're a week away.
>> find another way to do it.
>> arizona, too, we got raytheon which we don't know exact wla that's going to give us. it's going to cause us a lot of job losses. we have the federal government over there not doing their job.
>> there should be limited government . i don't like random changes. if you look at our budget, i didn't do across the board cuts. a lot of times politicians are 10% across. i didn't do that.
>> these governors know there are jobs at risk. they know food safety can be compromised. they know the cuts will limit access to health care . and if jan brewer and president obama can start seeing high to eye -- what's staping republicaopping republicans on the hill from compromising? let's bring in former pennsylvania governor ed rendell . will republicans in congress get the message?
>> well, i think it was very helpful. it was coincidental the governors meet in washington this weekend every year. it was coincidental that it came as sequesters are upon us . it was very helpful. i think to hear republican governor saz -- to hear january brewer say that some form of revenue should be part of a compromise. look, the question is, mitch mcconnell said there is no way he's going to do this. i would like to ask every house member is this is essentially making sure that everyone no matter what their income pays 30%. pays more than the average working person who pays 28%, the secretary, et cetera . that onlyover $1 million. who thinks that is a bad idea that a millionaire pays the same percentage of taxes as a sector a guy who builds roads? does anybody think that's a bad idea? if the republicans were smart, they would haed the message from the jan brewers and scott walkers and say to themselves, look, that's a pretty good compromise because no middle class working people get hit by that. legality let's go with that. the president is willing to, almost 2 1/2 times as many cuts. let's get this thing done.
>> but isn't that the point, governor? the point is that the millionaires and the billionaires are not going to be hurt by this at all. even if you close the hoop holes. but ordinary people , i'm talking about that mother watching this show tonight that has got to deal with the fact that come friday head start 's gone. i'm talking about teachers. i'm talking about people that have been trying to make ends meet, that all of a sudden everything is going to snap out of nothing that they did wrong, only because of some stubbornness and political brinkmanship. can't the leaders of this country get it together?
>> let me add middle class parents who zpend depend on the government to help with their autistic kids. it's stunning that we allowed this crisis, we're letting this crisis because of political posturing. we're letting this crisis determine the fate of a lot of people. i know it's fashionable now that this really isn't a crisis. tell the 7 a50,000 people who are going to lose they're jobs according to the cbo, that's not a liberal thinking --
>> this is an independent body. the cbo says 50,000 jobs. if i'm sitting watching this tv right now and one of those people that are about to lose my job, if i'm one of those people about to be furloughed, if i'm a mother or father of an autistic kid, it is a real crisis to me. it may be manufactured to somebody on the beltway. and then i'm reading, governor, that the republicans actually think it's good for them politically to let the cuts kick in. very disturbing to me. "despite numbers, republicans are convinced they are in the driver's seat just as they say the calendar and the law helped obama on taxes in december." i mean we're playing brinksmanship while people's livelihood is at stake?
>> and, you know, it's stupid, to be honest, rev. in three weeks or four weeks, march 27th , the government shuts down if we can't find a way to pass more dollars to keep it running. so there is another crisis four weeks down the road. and, look, in the end, and i would besieged president to, although he's done better on this than the republicans , let's not kick the can down the road. we've got -- if the sequester happens or if it doesn't happen, we have four weeks until the next crisis. let's try to do the big deal , the deal that puts another $2.5 trillion towards that debt. let's do the big deal . if we did it, rev, the economy in my judgment would explode. all that money that's on the sidelines explodes.
>> i agree with you. don't kick the can down the road. but don't kick the american people in the backside either. let me ask you something. you have been governor of pennsylvania . republican governors and democratic governors seem to say let's compromise. your a governor. what can governors do? can they appeal to the congress people in their state? i mean is there anything with four days left those governors can do to help?
>> sure. they can say if you don't compromise, we're going to call you out publicly. pz one thing if you're republican of the united states to call you out. it's another thing for your republican governor to call you out. chris matthews , it's hard ball . so the governors have to play hard ball . the clips you ran at the beginning of this segment were essentially calls them out. you had jan brewer sending a message to the arizona delegation, compromise. let's get this done.
>> and they should call them out. you're right, play hard ball . you can come on here and call them all out. but call them now. we need to stop this. governor rendell, thank you for your time tonight.
>> thanks. let's hope that it works.
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