PoliticsNation   |  December 09, 2011

Debunking GOP claims of voter fraud

Lee Saunders of AFSCME joins PoliticsNation to explain why the Republican Party can’t prove their claims of voter fraud.

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>>> all week we've been playing out how the voter fraud is ridiculous but the republican lawyer's association is trying to prove us wrong. counting every conviction of prosecution across the country since 1997 . so what do they come up with? 311 cases. yep, only 311 cases. but we saw more than 593 million votes cast in that same period. that's a fraud rate? that's a fraud rate of 0.00005%. that's the lowest rate we've seen on this show. so thanks, republicans, for proving our point for us. joining me now is lee saunders , the nation's largest union for public service workers and lee co-chaired the jobs is justice march in washington . he's in washington tonight. he's co-chairing these 25 cities tonight. lee, we spoke with a couple of cities as they are gathering. i'm going to join the gathering there. you're in washington . but the justice side of this, the voter i.d., you heard this very moving conversation i had with congressman lewis. he was beaten to get the right to vote. we're not talking about guys who want to vote. we're talking about people who want to overhaul the whole system of how we vote. and this clearly is a threat to the working class people who you and your union represent.

>> well, it's their agenda and their agenda is very clear. it's to rob us of our freedoms, to rob us of our voices, whether it's taking collective bargaining away from us from the state of wisconsin, the state of ohio, or whether it's taking voting rights away from us. and that's why it's so important in these cities where we're having these rallies today, those 25 cities, we've got to grow the number of cities where we have those kinds of rallies. i believe the american people get it. they understand that there is a clear choice. those who want to support the 1%, the billionaires, the millionaires who continue to get those tax increases who continue to see that they are moving and trying to move this country in their direction or they are going to support the 99% of the folks who are trying to play by the rules every single day or trying to make ends meet moving through the middle class . and i think that distinction is very clear and people are understanding the difference and we've got to continue that momentum. n n

>> now, lee, as we look at unemployment, jobs, let me show you data for november. african-americans are 15.5% unemployed to the bureau of labor statistics . hispanics, 11.4. average rate is 8.6. african-americans almost double the rate. when we look at that climate, 8.6 is an improvement but it's clearly high. we look at that and the next battle is unemployment insurance . how costly would it be if benefits ran out. six million people lose benefits next year. 1.8 million cut off within a month. that's why we're rallying tonight. this is incredible.

>> we've got to fight to extend unemployment insurance benefits. we've got to fight to make sure that that payroll tax cut remains in effect. i mean, it's just unbelievable to me that you have these conservatives on capitol hill who are continuing to provide these tax breaks to billionaires yet they will not provide $ 1500 a year to the middle class and working class who need those breaks. this is a clear distinction that we need toun understand and i think we are getting it.

>> look at ohio. they made a law and you made the call. i went in three times with you. people turned that law around. we won that in november. if you fight, you can win and we're going to continue to fight, mr. saunders .

>> we sure will, al. we're going to be walking hand in hand with you.

>> lee saunders , thank you for