Is Romney using babies to help his campaign?

>>> how much would it cost?

>> it's revenue neutral.

>> just talking about the cuts. we'll get to the deductions. the cut in tax rates ?

>> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans tax rate business 20%.

>> how much does that cost?

>> it's revenue neutral.

>> unless you take away the deductions.

>> we're going to get to that in a second. the first half lowering the tax rates does that cost $5 trillion?

>> no. look, i won't get into baseline argument with you because that's what a lot of this is about. lowering tax rates broadening the tax base works and you can --

>> but i have to -- you haven't given me the math.

>> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math.

>> that was paul ryan on fox news yesterday making the case against math or for time or some combination thereof. these are the moments where i think the romney team has trouble, once you can actually drill down and say, but how does it work? show me the numbers. there is no answer.

>> right. paul ryan thinks he can use this kind of policy wonk construction that he's been able to create to evade policy discussions. he told brit hume earlier i don't want to get too wonky on you when he asked him when is this budget going to balance. he did the same thing here, where he says look, you know, the math is just too complicated, just trust me on this. you can lower taxes by 20% and it's free. the problem is, nobody believes that. and you can't say well i'm really smart and know the numbers and there's cbo baselines and hope people change the channel. maybe what they should have said is i'm going to cut taxes by 20% and the economy will go through the roof. they didn't say that. they said i'm going to cut taxes by 20% and find other revenue. where will you find the other revenue? not saying.

>> there is not enough time, eric, not really is a discussion -- that's not a good rejoineder. i'm no debate pro, but you know.

>> that's the place where barack obama , bill clinton , you ask them a question like that, they'll go deep into the math on you. they will rattle off numbers and until you start to pass out.

>> you want to stab yourself in the neck.

>> they will numb you with numbers and, you know, most of them true, most of them right, all of them framed to their benefit, but they've got the command of the specifics to back up what they're saying.

>> i think paul ryan has the command. he just knows that it will probably increase taxes for people earning between $100,000 and $200,000 a year.

>> the answer is like with releasie ining romney 's tax returns , the answer is one they don't want to give. they bet the farm on not giving the answer. the plan was not to have a plan, was to run against barack obama 's plan, and just keep pointing the finger at him and not have any specifics to offer of your own so you could never be attacked.

>> like a bad jewel heist movie when everybody gathers in the corner in the back of the van and the plan is to have no plan. and then someone is like that's a really bad plan.

>> that's a bad plan.

>> speaking of bad plans or questionable plans, liz, i want to play new romney advertising from the campaign and gop super pacs that focuses on the kids and more specifically the babies . let's take a look. we are calling those babies up, but babies are slow -- very slow moving.

>> they're asking the babies about math. that is never a good plan.

>> i'll summarize until the folks in the control room can get it together. the -- basically making the case, as -- babies have arrived.

>> here come the babies .

>> take a look.

>> dear daughter, welcome to america . your share of obama 's debt is over $50,000. and it grows every day. obama 's policies are making it harder on women .

>> now, does this thing work with mothers? do you think women watch this and say all of that stuff that mitt romney has been saying now i finally get it?

>> it really works with babies . babies hate obama . so i mean -- i don't know if you know this. when they polled babies it's like insane how much --

>> if they could just vote.

>> obama campaign should counter it -- i don't know if you've seen that photograph going around of the baby that is screaming as mitt romney is holding it trying to get back to the mother, google baby romney it's amazing. i don't know that it works with women because, again, when women look at romney 's policies, the thing that drives them the most crazy about it is, shouldn't it be my choice to have access to birth control so i can economically plan for a family and be a responsible mom. this is really -- counter intuitive to getting women , i think.

>> it's sort of strategically manages to avoid the question of legitimate rape, forced rape, paul ryan 's positions on those matters and the choice on the economic situation of women in america. women have not recovered as quickly in terms of job gains due to large part that manufacturing and construction have come back first, not typically women heavy jobs. i guess the question is we've talked about why now, the romney campaign has sort of trotting out whether it's old videotape or stories or anecdotes meant to humanize mitt romney and maybe should have been doing that a couple months ago. a distinct bid for the female vote coming weeks before the election.

>> i don't think, though, that's an ad that's designed to humanize mitt romney .

>> i think it's part of the electorate that he has forfeited the last couple months.

>> he has problems with, we've discussed now for months with various groups. it's the case he had been on two issues, on handling the deficit, on the economy more broadly and some extent on what making washington work and overcoming partisan paralysis, those are issues he was ahead of obama until recently, and was ahead of obama with female voters until recently. the reason you're seeing that ad right now, the biggest and most troubling change in the polling in the last two weeks has been the shift in the right track/wrong track numbers and concurrently the shift of obama being given the edge over romney on those issues where the only place romney had a lead. they are, you know -- obviously don't want to talk about the issues that are toxic with female voters but must win back some of the suburban female votes on economics, deficit, stuff like that. they see that as an imperative and that's why that ad is out there.

>> i don't think you say to your baby to, welcome to america . the first of the ad is so bizarre. hi, honey, welcome to our family.

>> welcome to a baby -- welcome to america , baby, you're teething and have $50,000 in debt. after the break while the white house tweaks its analysis of the u.s. consulate in libya the romney ticket plans a pivot to hammer on foreign policy , something paul ryan is already focusing on.

>> we're seeing the ugly fruits of the obama foreign policy unravel around the world on our tv screens. syria you got 20,000 dead people . iran is closer toward a nuclear weapon. the middle east peace process is in shambles and we have our flags being burned all around the world. russia is thwarting us at every stage in the process. this is a weak foreign policy with it terrible results which makes us less safe.

>> we will look at team romney 's new go policy and gather the latest intel when former assistant secretary of state p.j. crowley joins us live,