NewsNation | February 15, 2013
>> trafficking is something we have not talked a lot about. what do you think the president needs to say today?
>> well, he's going to acknowledge the fact that in chicago there are the strongest -- very strong gun la laws, but people can go to city boreds other to indiana, right across the state borders and buy without a background check all the groups that they want. that is exactly why we need national regulations, why we need universal background checks . the accessibility of guns is just too much.
>> it's interesting, i was talking with a republican conservative from louisiana yesterday and he's watched this debate from both sides. we were discussing universal background checks and during our conversation, it really hit home to him the notion that someone can go to a private owner or a gun show and buy a gun, a weapon, without any i.d., without any background check i should say. 92% of americans, including nra members support this. why do you believe the nra is still defiant, at least on universal background checks where people cannot just walk to a gun show or walk to a private home and walk away with a weapon?
>> the answer is really simple, tamron. the leadership of the nra , the top executives of the nra , their business is helping the marv manufacturers, their organizational supporters, to sell more guns. so they're interested in more purchases, however they're done. as you said, 74% of nra members themselves are for universal background checks and a vast majority of the gun owners themselves. normal people understand that everyone ought to be selected so that they're not a criminal, they don't have a history of mental illness that's been reported. those people shouldn't have guns and everyone in america practically agrees.
>> let me transition to what's happening with chuck hagel and the senate. i want your perspective in that our first team says that this is a reminder for all that future le battles will perhaps be reflected in what we're seeing with chuck hagel and the filibuster and that, in their words, let's stop pretending this will change any time soon. there are tea leaves to be read in the chuck hagel nomination in hold and what we might see with immigration, gun control and other legislation the democrats and the president would like to see move ahead?
>> well, i'll tell you, it really says to me that i wish that the senate had done something more about the filibuster and not allowing the republicans to abuse and overuse it as they have.
>> but wasn't it harry reid and the democrats who didn't want to do more about the filibuster for fear when the table turned they didn't have the option?
>> we've seen from republicans when the tables turn they'll do anything they want it do and do it quickly in order to press their own agenda. so it is disappointing. but having said that, the republicans are now saying, oh, no, this isn't a filibuster, this is just slowing the process down. we're going to do it on our own timetable but we are going to do it. chuck hagel will be the secretary of defense. so it's just an immature, i think, silly power play on their part. they're going to approve him but they want to drag it out. and i think it may be -- it may be a prelude to what's going to come.
>> speaking of this evenings dragging out, the sequester, the republicans have put a plan in $110 billion in cuts. an article says speaker boehner really is a point where he has a you-first attitude towards democrats and republicans . he wants to see what the democrats and president will put forth because of the hard-fought battles he's faced with his own caucus.
>> well, the senate has now put together a plan, the house, our ranking member on the budget committee has put out a bill to do it. here's the problem, tamron, the problem is the republicans don't want one penny more from people and corporations that can afford to pay more. they don't want one cent in new revenue. we simply can't accept that. the middle class and poor people have tightened their belt so much already. and that's why we're at a standstill right now. it's another manufactured crisis by the republicans to hold up actually moving our country forward. the impact of sequestration is devastating, even for a short while.
>> congresswoman schakowsky, it's a great