NewsNation | January 22, 2013
>> fbi profiler clint van zant standing by. clint , this is the second time that we have been on air since newtown where literally we have had breaking news during a conversation on gun legislation. i was just talking to congressman chris van hollen and we break in with news regarding this shooting and waiting to get information in texas and it was, i believe, just last week or maybe two weeks ago, again, in the middle of a conversation on gun legislation and there was a shooting in california. right now, we don't know much about what's happening here. when's happened i should say here but police are saying, clint , multiple people have been shot.
>> yeah. you know, what i'm afraid we're seeing is there are a number of people who because of pending gun legislation for one thing are buying guns. i was at a local sporting goods store where i live in virginia, and people were stacked up two deep at a gun counter buying guns and the ammunition had almost been cleaned -- this is a large store. and the ammunition had been cleaned off almost all of those shelves. so number one, you have a paranoid belief on the part of some people that the current administration wants to take their guns or wants to take their ammunition. realize there's 300 million guns in america. if they think the fbi and atf lined up at the front door to get the guns, you know, that's just not going to take place. the other --
>> i want to point our audience to what we're seeing on the screen. at least one person at the top of the screen lying on his or her back it appears and an emt and gloves and i don't want -- forgive me for making an assumption whether this is a suspect or victim. we cannot tell but you see a number of people hovering over this individual on that little patch of grass there. emt workers and authorities on the scene there and there appears to be and the tree is blocking our view but there appears to be another person on the ground, as well. at this point, clint , we have been told multiple people, obviously, not a specific number there. but we see at least activity over two individuals on this portion of grass there in our screen here, clint .
>> yeah. i think what we're finding out, what we have seen the last few years is when we see these shootings, mass shootings, campus shootings, these theater shootings, they almost to a person there's some significant mental health issue that's ongoing that allows them to take whatever frame of reference they have and then act out against a community which may well be what we're seeing right now at this north harris campus.
>> and clint , i know that texas has a concealed handgun law.
>> you're able to carry in that state. i reported extensively on when the law passed and great concern whether or not the crime rate would go up. meaning not in the sense of burglaries but people getting in to confrontations, for example, in vehicles and going out and shooting someone over a petty argument over traffic. great concerns but the conceal handgun weapons law passed in the state. i do not know and we can work to get the information if you can carry gun tons campuses of universities or not. we have had that conversation in the past where governors have even said that they would support people carrying guns on school campuses and sporting events in places that would seem unusual to some. but again, pointing the audience back to what we see here on screen. this is harris county college. that's in harris county , obviously. in texas . the university or the college is called lone star college . that's near harris campus. so we're trying to get the breakdown here and sounds like a campus that's part of lone star college . and this is their north harris campus about 12 to 14 minutes ago. word came in that several shots were heard on this campus. a few minutes later, multiple people according to authorities confirmed shot. we do not have an exact number. clint , back to the conversation of the law in the state, they have a concealed handguns weapon law in place in texas and been in place i'm going to calculate about -- 15, maybe 20 years now. maybe around that.
>> yeah. it has. and we have seen few shootings like this. mass shootings that have ever been attributed to someone who legally has the right to carry a gun. the shootings that we have seen in the last year, for example, not only have been individuals by and large with mental health issues but people who have stolen guns or taken guns from their parents or something elsewhere there was no legal aspect to them having guns, carrying guns or deploying a weapon in that regard anyway. so you know, we may well be talking apples to oranges with the exception of what you're saying many people will say, well, that at least if they had someone carrying a gun on campus, that may have given them the ability to respond to the shooter. obviously, at this point, we don't know that to be the case at all.