NewsNation | August 28, 2012
>>> ago. meanwhile, msnbc's david gregory , the moderator of "meet the press" is joining us live from the convention site. david, you talked to someone no stranger to rnc conventions.
>> that's right, johnson is an outspoken campaigner for the republican campaign. i talked to him earlier today. this is someone who is no stranger to the conventions. former white house chiefs of staff . and it was a pretty lively discussion for the romney campaign at this convention. here's part of this conversation conversation. if this is a successful night, what things will we see out of the two speeches?
>> one will be hot, one will be cool. governor christie will talk about what's wrong with america today and focusing on the governor's capacity to fix problems and underscoring the need of a failed presidency to be repaired by somebody who knows how to repair it. and ann will talk about mitt romney the person, i suspect. i haven't seen either of the speeches, by i suspect she'll talk about mitt, the person, and try to give a more personal context to why mitt romney decided to go through what is really a grueling process, running for president and then serving and fixing the country.
>> it seems like governor romney has twin challenges. there's something mysterious about him to a lot of people, he's not an easy guy to get to know. on the other hand, is he a likable guy, somebody you can identify with? the president seems to have an advantage on that. do you think that's something she can address or does he have to address it himself?
>> that's talk about why likable is an issue at all. you have a broken pipe in the kitchen, you have a choice between two plumbers, one is likable and incompetent, the other is dryer in his conversation and knows what he's doing. who are you going to hire? competence over likable.
>> competence doesn't always sell but --
>> that's a different debate.
>> but that is interesting, it seems to be the thrust to say, look, he may not light up this room, but he's a fix-it guy.
>> look, people are hurting. people have no jobs. people are underemployed. they see their kids and grandkids graduating from college and not finding any work. they don't want that to continue. there are lots of nice people i have never hired to run a lemonade stand , and that's president obama . i wouldn't hire him to run a lemonade stand .
>> the issue that this comes down to, obviously governor romney wants to talk a lot about the economy. and just what you're talking about, who can turn it around, and yet there seem to be, they are not side issues because they are core demographic issues affecting the party. i spoke to former governor jeb bush about standing among hispani hispanics , a real liability for the party, among women, the gender gap is obviously hurting the republicans right now. what can ann romney do to address those things? what can mitt romney do to address the issues?
>> the party understands we have to continue what's been a long effort to reach minority groups like the hispanics . the hispanics are very entrepreneurial. to their credit, they probably have a better record of being entrepreneurs than some second, third and fourth-generation americans here. they like to create jobs for themselves and they are willing to take the risks. and they came to this country for a reason. the party is trying to focus on that aspect. and i think it's beginning to resonate.
>> where is it resonating? obama has two-thirds of the vote.
>> there is going to be a better turnout for hispanics than president obama , to the republicans than president obama realizes. they will cash their vote and then we'll talk about the numbers.
>> based on what? rupert murdoch says romney has to come out with a path for citizen ship . that's not where the republican party is right now.
>> that is not true. we have to do a better job on guest passes for workers and the expansion and commitment to really expand that. there's the aspect of the platform that addresses easing the process on visas so we retain talented folks who come to study and encourage them to stay here. so the party is moving in the right direction. you're not going to solve the immigration problem in the hot rhetoric of a presidential campaign . and the travesty of all of this is that president obama sat on his hands for four years before he did anything as a president to make it easier for some of the young people who through no fault of their own are in the united states and by virtue of education and service in the military, a lot of us fail that they have earned the right to stay here.