msnbc | March 09, 2013
>>> in this week's office politi politics, co-author of the ultimate watergate chronicle "all the president's men" and wrote a biography of hillary clinton "a woman in charge" and i asked him whether he thinks she'll run for president in 2016 but i asked him to first share his thoughts on sequestration.
>> the sequestration is a product of total irresponsibility. on the part of the congress of the united states . these are people who have not for -- going on 30 years dealt responsy with the national interests . they're looked at parochial interests, financial interests , constituencies, back home in terms of the narrow geographical area and not the national area. our federal government is broken. there's a short-term solution of balancing some numbers but that's not what this is about. this is about a basic philosophical argument that has been ongoing, particularly launched by the radical right, about what the role of government is. and the role of government, perhaps might need some constraint, it has moved into the realm of such irresponsibility in terms of a political cohort in washington that understands that the government -- does not understand that the government has legitimate function. that we need government. that we need government to, for instance, the food and drug administration , for instance we need the center for medicare and medicaid. we need these things. the idea that government is the enemy is utter nonsense. where it becomes the enemy, fix it. but this nonsense that all government spending is bad and we can just take a chisel or take a razor blade is wrong and ignore rant.
>> how do you view the whole back and forth between bob woodward and the white house and the other begins of origins of sequestration?
>> bob and i have talked about it a lot. i think bob was absolutely right about the origins of sequestration. obama proposed it. i don't think anybody ever expected it to come to be. certainly he didn't. the republicans, i think, hoped it would come to be and rapidly embraced it. i think it's irresponsible all around. that but it is again a product -- look what got them there in the first place.
>> a couple questions about hillary clinton , because you wrote the biography 2008 , "a woman in charge." we look ahead to 2016 . give me what you know about her and that exhaustive research for that book. what's your best guess?
>> that bill clinton wants her to run. assuming that she's healthy. i think you would have to assume that he would be healthy as well, if she were to run. it's a long ways off. she needs a rest. think about this. here is somebody who won, went through being the first lady during this turbulent presidency that included her husband's impeachment in the lewinsky matter and became really the person who saved his presidency. and who ran the fight against impeachment for him. went from there straight to a race for the u.s. senate . won that race. served in the senate. went from there straight to a presidential race . did not stop. became the secretary of state. traveled more miles probably than almost anybody in the history of the world , except maybe pope john paul ii . seen by more people. turned to -- you know, into a great secretary of state in terms of being an ambassador for the united states .
>> you cannot walk into this office, carl, without being overwhelmed by this record collection . what in the world and where did that start? and this, too, record player .
>> well, let's see. about three-quarters are classical and a fourth of them are rock.
>> you were a rock journalist, weren't you?
>> i was a rock critic . my son is a rock guitarist . my other son is writing for "the times" and doing great. music has always been a big part of my life.