msnbc | January 29, 2013
>>> big news for boy scouts everywhere. the bsa is announcing it's considering lifting the ban on gay scouts and leaders as early as next week. but the new policy would be put to the decision of seclusion in the hands of local governing officials and sponsoring organizations. joining me now from pittsburgh is jennifer terrell. i interviewed jennifer back in april last year when she was removed from her position as her son's den mom because she is gay. jennifer , it's great to have you back on. the petition, and others, which change.org gathered over a million signatures. first, your reaction to that position, and now that the efforts have potentially sparked this possible reversal in policy for bsa.
>> it's really excited to be here with you again, thomas. and our interview is up for a glad award. congratulations on that. obviously, i'm very excited about this proposal. i started to petition, thinking maybe we could get a few signatures and other petitions have surfaced and people have really stood up. they've told the bsa, this is what we want. so i feel like the bsa is finally realizing that they can't ignore the people anymore. not only the people, but the scouts, the eagle scouts , the leaders, everyone is standing behind us and i feel really proud to be part of this.
>> we have the statement, jennifer , from the boy scouts of america saying that the policy change under discussion would allow the religious, civic, or educational organizations that oversee scouting determine how to address this issue. the boy scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members, or parents. under this proposed pal, bsa would not require any chartered organization to act in ways inconsistent with that organization's missions, principles, or religious beliefs . so distancing themselves from actually embracing the policy that they have long had standing, shouldn't there be, in your opinion, an umbrella standard? because it seems as if this could result in different types of discrimination and not complete tolerance over the issue itself.
>> well, you're absolutely right about that. i think this is going to play out kind of like marriage equality does, in every state, vote by vote, constant fighting back and forth. but for now, this is a huge step. and we're really excited that they're at least considering it. so i would like for everybody to continue to urge them. you can still go to change.org/scouts and sign my petition and tell the boy scouts that you support this idea. and yes, of course, ultimately, we want a national policy saying that there is no discrimination. there is no -- not even any wiggle room. everyone has to accept everyone. and eventually, i think we'll get that too.
>> jennifer tyrrell, great to have