msnbc | January 27, 2013
>> state, i'm joined now by kiki mcclain who served as a senior adviser for the 2008 hillary clinton for president campaign and also a senior partner and global head of public affairs at the porter novelli firm. good to see you. how are you doing, craig?
>> people endlessly fascinated by the relationship by hillary clinton and president obama . it wasn't always cordial one. remember the 3:00 a.m . phone call that hillary clinton ran back in the primaries. what changed?
>> well, i think service together changed, don't you? i think hillary clinton has had the opportunity to help lead the restoration of america's image and influence around the world. she has served her president well and served the american public well, and, you know, i think this is a relationship that began with mutual respect. you certainly don't invite someone to join your cabinet in this post without that. you certainly don't accept the assignment of secretary of state without, that and now you've had four years of working closely together for the same goals, for the same things that you want for the united states , and that means you're in the bunker together on tough days, and that means you're standing proud on oh, and i think that's where personal relationships develop. people also forget that secretary clinton and president obama did have time in the senate together so they knew one another better before the tough days of the campaign. really important to remember. a campaign is meant to really define the differences of two people, but working together as this leadership team in the administration on what they agree on and how they move forward, both challenge one another and stand behind one another.
>> i want to play a brief clip from the "60 minutes" interview and get your take on the other side. take a listen.
>> it has been a great collaboration over the last four years. i'm going to miss her. wish she was sticking around.
>> what's next? what's next for your friend, hillary clinton ?
>> what's next for hillary clinton ? i think hillary clinton deserves some time to take a break and rest. i think she deserves some time to think about what kind of role she can play. one of the wonderful things about her is her commitment to service and public service and what that means, and i think she will be the best person to determine the role that she plays in our country's future. there are lots of ways to serve, and she's been someone who has told us that in the public for many years, and -- and i have confidence that whatever role she ought to play she will make the right choice.
>> bill clinton , of course, he campaigned extensively for president obama back in october, in fact.
>> new york magazine, john heilemann, wrote this fascinating piece about the relationship describing it as a political marriage of convenience of sorts. he wrote that, quote, if obama wins, it may be because the former president saved his presidency, but what exactly do the clintons get in return? has there been or was there at some point a sort of a wink, wink, nod, nod, a handshake of sorts between the two?
>> i can't imagine that that's possible at all. i think what you saw with president clinton was a commitment to stand up for what he believed in in this country, and he believed that barack obama would make the best president for our country at the time. folks who want to engage in conspiracy theories and anything other than one former president certainly understands better than anyone else what a current president has done and what it took to achieve that, that's all it was.
>> kiki , there have been some questions about secretary clinton's health. is she healthy enough for a presidential run?
>> i think she's healthy enough for anything she wants to do. i wish i was as healthy as she is. you know, she simply took a fall and had a condition cushion and it was serious and real and needed to be addressed and she needed to follow doctor's orders that she did, but she's in good enough shape to pursue anything she would like to in the future.
>> let's say hypothetically she were to run and vice president joe biden were both to run. both of them would be around plus or minus , you know, three years on either side. around 70 years old. for a party that prides itself on its ability to reach young voters, how would that work?
>> well, i'll tell you what my reaction would be. aren't we lucky as a democratic party to have amazing leaders who are willing to commit mayor lives to service to us?
>> i think it would be just fine.
>> i know you're a founding member of no labels, a group trying to put an end to the hyperer partisanship in d.c.
>> do you think at this point president obama 's second term is going to be any different from his first with regards to trying to bridge the gap between the two?
>> i think it has to be, but i think it's important to know that he's not the only one to do it. can't do it by himself. we need members of congress to joint problem-solvers group so there's members from both chambers and parties willing to sit down together and work through the issues together and not threaten one another from coming to the other side to work together. so he can't do it by himself. it requires people from the house and the senate to be at the table with him, focused on solving problems and not worrying about their own re-election.
>> veteran democratic strategist kiki mcclean, thanks so much. appreciate your time on this sunday.
>> thanks, craig.