msnbc | March 06, 2012
the important part.
>>> it is 7 p.m . in theeast coast, polls are now closed in georgia , vermont and massachusetts. it is projected that newt gingrich will win the georgia primary, the home state of the former house speaker . now to virginia , a state where only mitt romney and ron paul are on the ballot. in virginia , this is interesting, too early to call. same story in vermont , too early to call. again, nbc news can say mitt romney is leading in the green mountain state . again, newt gingrich , the winner in georgia . that is the second state he has won during this campaign. he also won south carolina . as of this hour, we are too early to call in both virginia and in vermont . newt gingrich lives to fight another day, chris.
>> i think it's very important, he saved his dignity, i think that's what he had to do making clear, you got to carry your own state, he is not going any where he is finished.
>> ed schultz , looking ahead at newt gingrich 's future, what -- looking ahead at mitt romney 's future?
>> he has been furious since day one, hasn't been represented, doesn't have the money expect one guy bankroll it he is the biggest joke in the field right now. where it s okay, he is going to win georgia . he ought to. that's where he is from. i tell you what he will win georgia better than mitt won michigan .
>> there is something to hang your hat on.
>> lawrence , do you agree?
>> i think the problem is for romney more than anyone, tested in tennessee in a serious way. if he can take tennessee , it says a lot. but he is still now up against, as we heard earlier, some very hard delegate math. this may be a republican nomination which is not winnable from the voters f mitt romney thinks he can comfortably go into the republican convention simply a saying i got more delegates than anybody else and think that is going to inspire confidence in the republican establishment and everyone to gel around him, that cannot be true because the press will not allow it to be true. we will be watching the weakest march toward a nomination that we have ever seen.
>> didn't we -- we did see the democrats gel around barack obama once that --
>> he won it. forget the press. he won it from the voters. he got his nomination from voters. if we have a republican nominee couldn't get his nomination from voters, you are looking at the weakest nominee ever delivered.
>> here is what his best play is, romney will be able to make phone calls, ask for help, whatever. he has won florida. he has won arizona. he has won michigan . he might win ohio. he is nipping at his heels in tennessee . and virginia . how can you win -- those are pretty influential states. he would be able to go into the room and say i know i'm short on delegates but i've won where this party has to be well-to-foot in november. so, it would be really strange to go through this whole primary process and have a republican win those states and then not get the nomination. how could that happen? how you win florida, ohio, michigan , virginia , arizona and then not get the nomination?
>> i think it is really --
>> that's --
>> but winning the nomination doesn't just meaning convincing the majority of republican voters around the country that you are a good guy and ought tonight nominee it is convincing them that you ought to be the nominee over other republicans, right, so it just means beating in this case, rick santorum , newt gingrich and ron paul .
>> not if you have heading into a convention where a candidate does not have enough delegates. then you have to beat the people you ran against but jeb bushes and the other people you talk b andy card last week, who is not a hip shooter, former white house chief of staff , who is a bush loyalist, andy card was saying publicly what about jeb bush as a possible nominee, given how bad this field is?
>> the republicans will say what about the name bush? that's the --
>> steve, can somebody come in late?
>> i think it's very difficult but what's true is that if the voters don't award the nomination to you, if you don't get enough delegates through this process and the you go into the convention, you have lost chro control of the process, after that first ballot, anything can happen. wh when you talk to a presidential campaign scaling to almost a billion dollar organization overnight, three republicans on the bench potentially ready from day one, one is jeb bush , one is chris christie , one is mitch daniels , all of them have been pretty straight saying that they don't want to run, they don't want to be the nominee. so, i think that, you know, it is theoretically possible it could be someone else , but it is most likely to be mitt romney if he comes ahead. but the narrative around his weakness as a candidate will be something that is not good heading into a general election .
>> the perception problem. i agree with ed that if he wins those major starts, it is hard not to give him the nomination but when you talk about lawrence saying obama won, he won against hillary clinton .
>> i mean, he is going through all of this --
>> very viable --
>> santorum and newt gingrich . and you couldn't get the number against santorum and newt gingrich and we think you can beat president obama ? how do you sell that?
>> i think it may mean brokered. we may find, lawrence , a new meaning to the word brokered. like, yeah, you will be the nominee, but. there's some buts. we want you to sign things here. like maybe it is the running mate. maybe the platform comes out of no where nobody reads them, bring that out. may got in for ron paul 's votes. promise him something about monetary policy ? what is a brokered convention .
>> if -- surely the romney campaign has been on this math a while, looked forward and said there is a version of this we don't get enough delegates to lock it in, who can we be nice to here and they look at the newt gingrich super pac bombing romney . think, can we can't go there santorum , he is trying to win, he can't win and they cozy up to ron paul t is a second ballot thing. once you get to the second ballot thing, ron paul can make all the speeches he wants to their delegates, they can do whatever they want.
>> ultimately, if you wins, you have won the parliamentary style coalition-building socialist european model which, of course, would be difficult