Which TV actor pulls in the highest salary?

>>> here with us now, the editor in chief of "parade" magazine, maggie murphy here with the latest issue. this is a fun one. what people earn. maggie , good to see you.

>> good to see you.

>> i don't know where to begin here. let's start with some of the big names, and then we'll kind of go down. bieber 's pulling down 55?

>> $55 million, and the fun fact is $6,261 an hour last year. though he lost a little money, i guess, last night, fainting on stage. but i think in general, bieber is, you know, the highest paid entertainer right now. you know, when you're a teen idol, you've got to take the money when you're getting it. big, big salary for him.

>> another one that jumped out at us, i think all of us here, from television, mark harmon . we know he's on a successful show, "ncis," but i didn't know he was $38 million a year successf successful.

>> highest paid actor on television. the guy from 240 robert all those years ago. and is apparently about to get a pay raise. you know, his salary's going up. and i think that shows you the stability of that show of those programs.

>> he's ahead of brad pitt .

>> yeah. like who would have thought?

>> how long has mark harmon been on that show?

>> that show's been on at least, what, six, seven years?

>> do you know his character?

>> no, i don't.

>> just making sure because i don't think there's a person on this set that could tell you.

>> but we know it's on.

>> we know it's on.

>> and that is it.

>> it's the consistency. i know the spin-off.

>> crazy successful.

>> you have guy fieri . it thoushows you the restaurant critics don't know anything.

>> guy makes $100,000 an appearance for a speech and paula deen is on there for $16 million. john that is words to share.

>> guy fieri is a whole other america .

>> it's america , baby.

>> it's a crime against nature.

>> i think one of the interesting things from this package is what you learn about the jobs in america and who makes what. i think you see some trends here. for example, everybody says that the new kind of jobs is going to be skilled labor . you have to have -- you need a degree in engineering or whatever it is. and a lot of the people that make, you know, wastewater engineer makes $78,000, pathologist's assistant, some of those numbers might be surprising to some people.

>> you know, it's really interesting. we also wanted to find out if you're in high school and graduating, should you go to a college? and you know, should you go to a community college ? and a lot of the folks that we met with who are engineers, you know, basically started out in a community college and then moved. you definitely need some school beyond high school . but there are a lot of jobs that were -- just need mathematics, the ability to embrace concepts, understanding how things come together in the sort of numeral structure of our world. that's where the next few years people should really put their energy and time.

>> the one thing about brad pitt just because we've mocked it on the show, brad pitt , $7 million of that dollars that he earned last year was for that chanel ad.

>> who's laughing?

>> who's laughing now?

>> meg, we also have a guy who since he left the rnc has been pulling down mark harmon money, michael steele in d.c.

>> hi, michael.

>> hi, maggie . i didn't know i was doing that well.

>> you can be on the list next year.

>> right, exactly. maggie , you know, how important is it for a lot of these celebrities, in particular, but i guess for everybody out there who's trying to move up the ladder in some way, to move outside their sweet spot , that comfort zone , to sort of diversify their portfolio, if you will so that they can maximize their potential as, you know, they age in their industry or they look at other opportunities down the road? does that factor into how these numbers shape out?

>> absolutely. i think the key word for everyone on this list is mobility. i mean, the reality is you have to be able to, if you're a music star, you have to be able to sell perfume the way justin bieber does. if you're a veteran coming back, you have to be willing to go where the jobs are. you know, i think that being able, even if you're looking to start a business, you've got to think in a mobile society, what could i do? you know, what structure, what services could i bring? mobility is the key, key thing. and i think the ability to also, within your field, move around. i mean, i think young people can't count on companies being around for 20 years the way i worked, and the reality is that you're going to need to keep moving.

>> there's some fun ones to look at, lebron james , $57 million, anne hathaway , $10 million. you touched on a meese i wanted to get to which is the veterans piece in the magazine.

>> right.

>> a lot of veterans struggle to find work in the field when they come back. there's a new group that has a new device on their website that helps people find careers. what are you and what are others telling veterans to do to sort of microtarget and find where the jobs are that are best for them?

>> kevin shmigel who runs the u.s. chamber of commerce has basically said go where the jobs are. veterans coming home , they want to go back to their support systems. they want to probably go to their hometowns, but that may not be the best place as they move forward. there are great jobs in the middle of the country, especially around north dakota where you have drilling. you have opportunity for welders, $55 an hour. the other thing is a lot of companies, walmart, toyota, have really decided we're going to cut duown on this 29% unemployment that veterans are facing when they're coming home . i think much better than we have in previous returning veteran eras, we're doing a really good job getting veterans to understand those four years that they spent in the military were as good a prep as four years in college. and they have skills that i think american businesses will really benefit from.

>> and on the other side, businesses are getting smarter, too, recognizing the skills that veterans have that can contribute to the company so it's not an act of charity. it's an act of helping your business by hiring a veteran.

>> oh, absolutely. talk about you need -- you know, what you need in the office these days. you need people who know how to communicate, problem solve, deal with logistics. you know, these are the things that veterans in that skill set have learned. i think they'll be welcomed back in much more warmly than they faced in other things. and i think we're really focused on the problem and getting folks hired again. and i think we're all the better for it.

>> i'm glad you focused on that in the issue.

>> thank you.

>> it's a fun one to read. did you have a favorite salary in there, mark halperin ?

>> did i have a favorite salary?

>> adele, 32. she deserves that.

>> and basically only going to go up because last year she did not tour. she had throat surgery and became a mom. she's going to be pushing bieber for that per-hour soon.

>> maggie murphy, thanks so much. the new "parade" magazine, "what people earn."

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