New book follows Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State

>>> joining us now, "politico's" patrick gavin has a look at the "playbook." good morning.

>> good morning, everybody.

>> you're in your library, not at headquarters.

>> you like the home books?

>> you're in the home library. you guys at "politico" are writing a new book out about hillary clinton . she followed clinton for the miles clinton traveled during her four years. what do we learn about her and particularly as a candidate?

>> unfortunately you don't get frequent flyer miles when you travel as secretary of state. pity her. this is sort of the first big book since secretary clinton has left foggy bottom . it's not technically about her 2016 ambitions, but clinton knows she's going to get this question everywhere she goes. we sat down and asked her about it. obviously, there's the standard talking points we talk about. but what she said to really look for is the one sort of overlooked element of a potential 2016 run based on her experience with hillary clinton being a very thoughtful and sort of considerate person on factoring in these things is hillary clinton really realizes that were she to enter the white house , this would be the third democratic presidential term in a row. and she knows that that's not necessarily a guaranteed thing for the american public. and what she needs to figure out is where is she going to separate herself from the president? the reality is that she's been a loyal soldier to president obama . that has paid off very well for her. she sort of restored her reputation and even bolstered it. she knows she's got to find a couple things to separate herself from the president as a new face, not a sort of barack obama 2.0.

>> as secretary clinton rests now, she's not thinking about 2016 , ostensibly. what would deter her or prevent her from running?

>> i really think the only thing would be if she didn't feel like doing it. if she decided she wasn't interested. not so much in the run, although that's a little bit daunting, but i think governing. you know, if she runs, she's got to think about maybe eight years of doing it, ten years total. and she may not want to spend the next ten years of her life engaged in this enterprise. i think that's really the only thing. the fundamentals are so strong for her, both within the party and more towards the center of the electorate that the normal calculations of getting it done, i think, don't really apply to her.

>> i sort of can't imagine what she's going through right now. because she's not been not running or not engaged in an intense enterprise for so long that what is now happening to her is such a radical change of environment and circumstance and pace that, you know, she could just look up one day and say, you know, i'm done. i'm finished.

>> you know what's funny, john, the phrase amongst team obama according to kim is that for the next two years, all they want her to focus on is, quote, beaches and speeches. that is pretty much their phrase for what they want clinton .

>> kim reveals as you do in the piece that the secret for secretary clinton 's stamina, hot chili peppers .

>> who would have thought? apparently helps you sweat and flush out your toxins. apparently that's one of her recipes for success for having logged 1 million miles during her time at the state department .

>> who knew? kim will be our guest next week. patrick gavin with a look at the "playbook."

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