Morning Joe | January 31, 2013
>> the executive editor there, mr. jim vandehei . jim, good morning.
>> morning. how are you?
>> doing all right. you're taking a look at marco rubio , he's been front and center on this immigration question. you say there may be some potential trouble for him. it is a fraught issue. what's the problem?
>> you know, we were talking on the show the other day about rush limbaugh and the interview he had and how much pressure rush and some of the conservatives would put on marco rubio not to embrace comprehensive immigration reform . rich lawry who's the editor of " national review ," which is one of the most if not the most influential publication on the right has a column on "politico" this morning where he takes rubio to task and says that the bill that he has endorsed or the framework that he has endorsed is a bad bill, is a bad approach. he's saying it's amnesty, it's granting benefits to people who broke laws. and they're part of the conservative movement that's leading the charge against it. and it just shows the pressure that's going to be on these republicans who want to evolve on the immigration issue but are always very responsive to what's happening at the base which you see playing out in the gun debate. you know, where you have wayne lapierre , you have activists saying they don't want to do anything on guns, and you have republicans in congress reacting accordingly.
>> and, you know, kelly o'donnell, not only do you have rich lowry who's the editor of " national review " coming out against it and other conservatives but " national review " itself, all of the editors came out yesterday harshly going against this immigration bill , which suggests -- and you also had dave vitter , david vitter , i think he said rubio was, quote, nuts.
>> naive. maybe he said it's nuts or something like that, but yeah. it looks like the conservatives are starting to push back against this belief that immigration reform is going to happen no matter what.
>> well, and you see marco rubio who's been working on this for a long time, sort much making headlines now, but i remember being in meetings with him many months ago where he was trying to figure out a way to make this an area where there could be compromise. so you're finding even in how he's describing it, it's different. for him, he calls it a path to a green card , not path to citizenship. wanting to remind people that citizenship takes many years to achieve. and so he's trying to take a little of the sting out of it by trying to take a more practical approach by just sort of arguing a case for why it matters to business as well as families and sort of the history of the country to be more open to the idea of, as he says, legal immigration that he believes republicans do support. this is thorny for him politically, no question about that. and so it's going to be interesting to watch how this affects sort of his rising star status within the party. he's an effective communicator on these issues. he's got a lot of personal life experience, but he's going to have a lot of selling to do.
>> kelly o'donnell's up on capitol hill in the middle of all this. thn thanks so much. appreciate your prv as well as jim vandehei .
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