Morning Joe | January 29, 2013
>>> playbook, chief correspondent, mike allen from new york. good to see you.
>> good to see you.
>> what brings you to our fair city .
>> see how the big city folk live. chaotic, expensive.
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>> cow town, washington down there. let's pick up this discussion, bipartisan effort yesterday. you guys are reporting president obama is going to have some qualms at least with it in his speech today in las vegas .
>> he is. there's a huge difference between the senate plan and president's plan. it could be a poison pill . the president, instead of having people wait until the borders are secure to have a pathway to citizenship, that he doesn't want to leave them in limbo. under the senate plan, there's 11 million illegals eligible for green cards only after the borders are secured. the president wants to do it at the same time.
>> throw in a reality check how quickly this will happen. in the senate, no doubt bipartisanship. in the house huge resistance to this. we're only six months removed from the presidential nominee saying these illegal immigrants should self-deport and that was popular inside the republican party .
>> we're two months from that same nominee going down the tubes.
>> sure. that does not change what a rank and file conservative republican thinks about immigration. you couldn't even touch this issue two years ago.
>> it's so much different and why we have senator marco rubio trying to turn down the heat. he's been on a tour of talk shows and today will do rush limbaugh and mark levine , another conservative talk show.
>> and what the president was going to propose today and the senate was talking about, the 11 million.
>> mike is right, there is a sequence you have to do border security first or not. the interesting thing is mccain and rubio did not want to be ov overshadowed by the president and forced the group to make the announcement before his and it looks like senate rubio and mccain plan before obama plan. everybody knows the pathway to citizenship is the toughfy, the most difficult component of getting comprehensive reform and seems like general principles everyone is talking about everyone agrees are the most doable. you get to the specifics of it. at the end of the day saying some people, probably most people who broke the law, came here illegally and took jobs most americans might have can stay here. probably the right thing to do and the most difficult. think about how easy it is to demagogue that and in the past.
>> jim is right. this does feel like a moment for the republican party but inside the house, republicans face constituents who want no part of this.
>> i wanted to say to jim and mike, is there any time marco rubio goes on conservative talk sh shows, anything he can say about the proposals that will change those minds, make more conservative elements opposed to this, particularly the path to citizenship, come on board with it.
>> he's doing it, surprising. sean hannity said this was the most responsible plan he had heard so far. the " washington journal " editorial page pro business, been saying this for a while. that provides a lot of cover for republicans who may want to do this. marco rubio actually wants this. his people calculated if he will run for president, he needs an accomplishment. doesn't need to just be talking it, he needs to find a way to finesse this.
>> one thing to watch is rush limbaugh in his interview. he said yesterday on his show, i want to call on fox news and others to join me defeating this plan. rush limbaugh still has juice with the base.
>> it sort of strikes me this could have potential of setting up the health care fight where people in our universe think of it logically and policy aspects of it. you go back to districts, there's these massive town hall protests in of situation to it. a fr afl-cio labor will be with the president today and the wall street business editorial page was with it yesterday but will they have district by district presence to help sell the bill?
>> that's tricky. just because you have the establishment encoresing it does not mean the rank and file -
>> your point earlier, district by district is different than state by state and the problem with the president going over the heads of members.
>> mitch mcconnell , his standing currently and going forward getting pressure from the left inside kentucky, a new poll out from the louisville courier journal showing him struggling with support of kentucky voters. 34% saying they would vote against him, 17% vote for him and 44% would wait to see who would vote against him. nothing more than an irresponsible way to stir up cheap headlines.
>> stunning. only 17% in an electorate says they will vote for the guy the top republican in the u.s. senate , deadly numbers.
>> the guy's been there a long time.
>> a third of republicans, only 34% say they would vote for him regardless of his opponents. that's a danger on the right.
>> the idea mitch mcconnell has trouble on the right tells you what you need to know as to the republican party . the guy is not a squish. pretty conservative.
>> welcome in ashley judd .
>> let me ask you guys, don't get so excited yet, sam. so jim and mike, have you ever seen a sitting incumbent such as mitch mcconnell with these numbers, it doesn't matter what staff says, i would be horrified if i was a sitting incumbent. this is bad news.
>> it's not surprise as tom daschle lost when he was a senate member. we're told the mcconnell team had more than 100 meetings with tea party members and met with the folks. he hired his dad's -- a paul family supporter aide as his campaign manager to try to buy insurance there. another surprising development was groups on the left including a moveon.org affiliate have said publicly, they're going to give money to support republicans who might run against him.
>> the primary process is so out of control for the republican party mitch mcconnell could find himself with a primary challenger that could cost him a seat.
>> he won't be caught napping.
>> i don't think it will happen.
>> go on the circle line tour.
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