Hillary leaves State Department, questions about 2016

>>> today marks the end of hillary clinton 's service as secretary of state. surrounded by colleagues, she reflected on her time leading the state department while joke being how much she's going to miss them.

>> i am very proud to have been secretary of state. i will miss you. i will probably be dialing ops just to talk. i hope that you will continue to make yourselves, make me, and make our country proud.

>> ann guerin is diplomatic correspondent for "the washington post " and kiki mcclain is a strategist.

>> nice to be here.

>> here is what vuk me in that speech. we both worked for hillary clinton . when she talk eed about calling in to ops just to talk. what is she going to do next week? she's really been in the spotlight since 1992 going from first lady of arkansas to first lady of the united states to running for the senate to running for the presidency to being secretary of state. come monday what is she going to do?

>> i think she's going to sleep a little. she's been pretty clear about that. i mean, one of the great things about hillary clinton is her dedication to public service . and she has never been without the understanding that there are many ways to serve and it may come in small moments and big lenses like she's just experienced. i think the chance to refresh herself a little bit, both physically and emotionally and frankly intellectually will lead her to make decisions about the role that she believes is the most important one for her to play in the community in which she lives, be it the small neighborhood or the large world she's a part of.

>> i would like to think she's going to sleep in, but knowing hillary i think she's going to wake up early and start --

>> take a walk. maybe she'll take a walk.

>> she might take a walk. she used to love to do that in the white house with her little cap on. ann , you wrote a piece looking at the legacy of hillary clinton and one of the things you talked about was the personal stature versus her diplomatic skills. talk a little bit about that.

>> well, i mean, she brought both to bear in this job. she leaves office without huge accomplishments like a middle east peace deal or an opening to china but with enormous goodwill around the world . higher probably personal ratings than any secretary of state has had for a long time. certainly the highest in the obama administration. she's one of the most recognized women in the world , one of the most admired. some of her greatest accomplishments really were just showing up. the old woody allen line. she went to places no secretary of state had gone. she went bucketing about back roads through africa and all kinds of places that a secretary of state might not necessarily be seen to do kind of retail diplomacy. she brought i think a politician's flair to this of kind of glad handing and handshaking and doing a personal style of diplomacy that people around the world and certainly people at the state department really appreciated.

>> now, kiki , i know we don't like to speculate about 2016 . i know. i know.

>> why not?

>> i know, i know.

>> it's so fun.

>> kiki , i want to ask you a question. one of the things that strikes me, everybody sort of says, well, if she gets in, she'll be the nominee. this idea of inevitability i actually think was harmful to her the last time, and so i really personally don't like that conversation, but it seems like it is not going to go away until she herself makes the decision or makes a formal announcement about 2016 .

>> well, i think you're right in your analysis it's not going to go away, and i think the good news is regardless of what task she takes on, hillary clinton understands better than anybody that it's hard work. i would push back a little on ann 's story and say this is a woman that helped lead the restoration of our image around the world . she brought diplomacy and smart power and technology together frankly in a way that helped lead the charge that everybody on the face of the earth can live up to their god given potential. that is an argument that she made and a challenge that she met and when you look at that kind of work, that describes the kind of stick to ttoativeeness.

>> two things that have struck me as hillary's tenure. number one, really elevating the role of usaid and development as part of the tools of diplomacy. that's something she did as first lady. that seems to have been a hallmark. number two, here she is one of the most popular women in the country, one of the most popular figures around the world . she has really elevated the conversation about women and the role of women around the world in a way that i think we have not seen previously and i certainly hope going forward we'll continue to be a part of our own diplomacy.

>> she lost no opportunity to really bring the cause of women to the fore in just about every ven sue, and she also made it kind of a habit to say the state department and usaid, all one sentence, all together. those things do go together. the development community loves her and certainly women 's organizations are very grateful for the spotlight she trained on the plight of women around the world and the success stories where there are some.

>> i personally will never forget being with her in china when she talked about women 's rights being human rights and seeing that come to fruition