What chance does gun control stand against GOP stubbornness?

>> wow. let's get right to our panel now. both msnbc contributors, karen finney is normer communications director for the dnc and goldie taylor is managing editor of the goldie taylor project. it's time to look at the last 24 hours of guns in america. we begin in tulsa, oklahoma, where just hours ago police found four women bound and shot to death in a home where a child was present. the child reportedly survived. in auburn, california, one man is dead and another recovering from multiple gunshot wounds after what police say was an altercation at a home. just outside of columbus, ohio, last night a 20-year-old was shot and killed in a drug-related incident. the suspect is just 27. in philadelphia early sunday morning one man was shot in the head and two others were injured by gunfire at a motorcycle club where just last april a man was shot and killed, and finally in aurora, colorado, over the weekend a gunman barricaded himself inside a townhouse, then shot and killed three people before being shot to death by police. yes, that is the same town where james holmes was in court today to determine if he's fit to stand trial for allegedly killing 12 and injuring 70 people at a movie theater last july. karen , those are just a few of the average 85 deaths each day in this country. it is astonishing but, sadly, it is the norm, isn't it?

>> it is the norm because we really -- it's a problem that we haven't been talking about at this level. so i'm glad we're not only talking about it but pointing out as we discussed frankly after the newtown shooting, the unfortunate reality between then and whenever legislation is introduced we know there will be more fatalities, more lives that potentially could have been saved. i think tame we also, as you saw in top lines , we see, you know, the right wingers and some of the others starting to go crazy with fear obama is coming for your guns instead of sitting down and having a common sense conversation. i think that's why it's going to take mayors, the people who are dealing with this on the front lines every day, governors, police officers , and people who have themselves been affected by gun violence speaking up and speaking out every single day until we get good legislation.

>> okay. well, goldie , according to a story in saturday's " washington post ," the obama administration is considering a broad approach to try and stop this. they include a new ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines, universal background checks on all gun buyers, a national gun registry , and tough penalties for carrying guns near schools among other things. according to the journal of the american medical association , a combination of heavy taxation and public education resulted in cutting the number of americans who smoked cigarettes in half between 1966 and 2010 . do you think that kind of approach could work with guns?

>> you know, let me sort of take this in parts. you know, first of all, you know, there's some settled law around the second amendment that gives people the individual right to bear arms for protection, personal protection in their homes. everything else is open to regulation, and what we've got to do is figure out what is right and reasonable. what will stem the tide of violence across this country, whether it is a legal gun or an illegal gun because, frankly, the lion's share of the gun murders that happen in this country every year happen with illegal guns. and so laws that are already on the books have to be enforced. the second part of this is, you know, if you put a tax on marijuana, you're not going to stop the sale and use of marijuana. if you put a tax on guns, you're going to produce more black market guns to get around taxation. but i think there is a point about this that is right. public education . when the presence of a quality educational system exists in a community, the opportunity or the probability of gun violence happening goes down steeply, and so in order to really fix communities, you've got to get in and fix the schools where these children are being reared and put in harm's way every day. it's really tough for a kid to focus on what's on that chalkboard if they're worried about getting shot that night. in chicago they've reached 500 murders in 2012 . that is one of the most unfortunate statistics i have ever heard. and so, yes, the obama administration has to pursue any number of remedies and this has to be a comprehensive effort.

>> karen , you were going to interrupt, karen ?

>> i was just going to say, mitch mcconnell over the weekend was already starting to try to come up with an excuse as to why this probably is going to have to wait its turn behind a number of other priorities. so i think goldie is exactly right, but the political reality is that unless there continues to be political pressure , and i think that's only going to be created and pressed by people speaking out, unless that political pressure is continued to be pressed, nothing is going to happen because we nra is already at wor k trying to, you know, shore up all the people that they give money to. i think while i agree with everything goldie said, let's not forget that it's going to take a lot of political will to make it actually happen.

>> and let's hope that drawing attention to this encourages those politicians. karen finney and goldie taylor , thank you so much.