Martin Bashir | November 30, 2012
>> is my colleague and the co-host of "the cycle." governor lincoln chafee seems to suggest that the war on christmas is made up, that it's not a real war . what is he smoking? i thought it was a real war .
>> i love saying merry christmas to people. i don't feel we need to be so pc that if i say merry christmas that's xaking jews or muslims or people who want to celebrate kwanzaa. this is bizarre to me.
>> every year fox news says both on air and a number of their anchors have written books on this suggest, there's a continual war on christmas .
>> you know, facts don't live in the alternate reality bubble. they just sort of go in and they die. you know, sometimes i find it difficult to understand how they think over there. i mean, you watch that network and do they -- i wonder if there are elves who come up with the facts that they use over there because i'm like where do you get these things? it's constant head scratching territory. is it not?
>> possibly. it is only two blocks away. lily, republicans in the house have passed a bill today. does this mean or suggest that republicans may have learned something from the election br, of course, latinos voted 71% for the president?
>> it's interesting, we heard it before here. immigration definitely strikes a chord with hispanics because there's a large minority of undocumented hispanics who have relatives that want a solution. what i like about this, kind of looking from the positive side, is it's showing some intent of progress. however, it's still very limited when you look at the big pool of almost 12 million undocumented citizens or foreigners that we have in this doesn't that are hoping for citizenship. so i like that it's something happening. you better take action after having three elections showing a declining number of support from latinos . otherwise you will disappear eventually as a party.
>> if they let millions of more latinos vote, the republicans, then they will disappear as a party.
>> that is true. touren the pantheon of house republican foreign policy experts, representative louie gohmert is one of the most thoughtful and clear-eyed. ear is his explanation of why the president chose to intervene in libya .
>> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so that al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya .
>> just so i understand this, the president agrees and issues the directive to go after osama bin laden , the head of al qaeda , so that al qaeda can take control of libya .
>> facts don't live inside the conservative bubble.
>> i know it's friday but --
>> we keep coming back to the same thing. maybe we'll talk about they start with a thesis of they hate obama . he's a horrible person --
>> but this gentleman is not a member of fox news. he's an elected congressman of the united states .
>> well, as you know, there's ultimately no difference, right? they're in the same thought ecosystem, right? which is directed by the fox news, the rush limbaugh , the ann coulter what they say filters do unto the rank and file and they vote for these people who say these absurd things and get re-elected because they start with a thesis of obama is a horrible person, he's a foreigner, a terrorist himself. you would think by now if there was some manchurian candidate thing to obama , it would have already come out.
>> i might have supposed that.
>> we're in a second term here. this is a guy who is thinking for the history books, for the legacy. when you talk about obama care, something big that is comprehensive that changes america. i think he's going to be looking for something comprehensive in terms of latinos , something in terms of foreign policy that will leave a mark on the world. and not just sort of piecemeal things and not trying to turn libya into a state run by al qaeda . it's such a dumb point that this person is making. ja let's go to another dumb individual. he's representative steve king of iowa, and here is how he thinks republicans might reach out to latino voters. take a listen to this, lily.
>> whatever we might say we were going to do, reduce the enforcement of the rule of law, waive the ruling of law, democrats will find a way to hand deliver citizenship papers along with a great big check from money borrowed from the chinese.
>> so there it is. great big check from money borrowed from the chinese.
>> these are the moments when i am lost -- i have no words.
>> this isn't an isolated comment.
>> exactly. it's so sad. they need like a pr overhaul for the party because you have a pocket of people that get it. you have the susana martinez that are trying and all of a sudden a comment like this comes out and it's back to square one. you're trying so hard but it really with comments like this, you go back to the ignorance of not realizing here is a number, i want everybody to remember. 62% of all u.s. hispanics are u.s. born. you don't have to buy us by giving citizenship papers or money. it's a bigger issue. it's a matter of respect, outreach, and a concerted effort that has a solid foundation and not just disrespectful ignorant comments.
>> once again we're making reference to free stuff rather than respect for people.
>> indeed. lily gill va let that, toure, thank you so much. enjoy your weekends and