Obama win shows Republicans have lost the culture wars

>> lets go right to our panel now. msnbc contributor goldie taylor and msnbc contributor joy reed is manager of the grio.com. forgive me for personalizing it. you appear to be the embodiment of modern america but it's something mitt romney , republicans, fox news don't seem capable of grasping.

>> i remember as far back as maybe 1996 when newt gingrich was pulling people together like j.c. watts and wanting to expand the big tent that was supposed to be the gop . ironically enough or unfortunately in the time since, that tent has only gotten smaller. they're playing to a more and more extreme base that is getting, you know, aggressively older and whiter all of the time. meanwhile the rest of the country is getting younger, more brown. women are growing in economic power and political heft, as we saw last evening with the election of so many new female senators across this country. and so the country is literally growing against the gop base. it's unfortunate that even today many, many years after 1996 that this gop still has not recognized that it is not about whether or not they're reaching out but whether or not they're listening to those constituencies they want to represent. do you agree?

>> i think what we're seeing is the aftermath of the culture wars . i've had a theory the culture wars ended a long time ago and both sides understand who won and it was this new america , this more diverse, more tolerant america . and i think the most charitable way to look at it, there are most people, older, in the south, that look at this country and don't recognize it. they feel it's been stolen away by immigrants, african-americans, people they don't see as prototypical american as they are.

>> he said repeatedly i wanted to take back america . he wants to take it back to 1953 as opposed to 2012 .

>> where they felt comfortable. just by being in their own skin they had power. now i think a lot of people feel disempowered and seeing barack obama re-elected as president, you know, confirms their worst fears, maybe this wasn't a fluke. it may be this other america really is dominant.

>> on fox news last night, as we know, it was something of a dark night of the soul . i'd like you to take a listen to the performance of karl rove . just bear in mind, this man's super pac spent over $300 million attacking the president. here is he.

>> even if they have made it on the basis of select precincts, i'd be very cautious about intruding in this process.

>> well, folks --

>> thanks.

>> -- so maybe not so fast.

>> thanks a lot.

>> thank you.

>> great to have you guys here.

>> that's awkward.

>> that's awkward.

>> goldie , did you get the impression he was trying to bring back the ghost of 2000 there?

>> it is ironic that this is the very same karl rove that did want a network to reverse a call in florida in a prior election. you know, and then -- you know, i have -- i have to tell you, i could not for the life of me fathom someone with that money, after a landslide like this. joy and i talked about this, i did another show some weeks ago and said the president would get 30 0-plus electoral votes , as many as 330. everyone on that panel laughed me off as irrelevant and silly. and last night as the returns came in, this race was never close. it was never going to be the model that karl rove thought it was. certainly never was going to be on the model that dick morris thought it was. here is the clencher. they modeled this on 78% white turnout.

>> yes.

>> it was 72%. so white america is shrinking. they haven't come, you know, really to grips with that.

>> joy, there are so many flaccid bags of toxic waste on the republican side at the moment. we have donald trump and, of course, the revolting john s ining john sununu and the man who spit when he talks, dick morris and he said, i'm quoting, i predicted a romney landslide and instead we ended up with an obama squeaker. that's an obama squeaker. he's at 303, he could be at 330 with florida. it's a squeaker?

>> because there is this age of unreality. because conservatives --

>> even after the election's been counted, unreality continues.

>> didn't happen.

>> doesn't happen.

>> and it will never happen.

>> the president's not been re-elected.

>> i watched a little bit of a certain network today because i wanted to experience it for myself. if you live in that universe they've hermetically sealed themselves inside, barack obama can only be elected through fraud, there are no actual supporters of his, everyone's hypnotized --

>> i so appreciate you explaining this to me.

>> they've developed this alternate reality because it feels good. and, unfortunately, they haven't -- there's no adult in that party who can say to the voters on the republican side , you lost this election and here's why. you're too extreme and let me explain to you why that invitens people. there isn't anyone. even mitt romney doesn't have the stature to do it.

>> we are watching the first family arriving at the airport in chicago, about to board air force one. we were speaking -- you were saying there aren't many people who are grown-ups in the republican party , but there is bill o 'reilly. let's listen to what he has to say.

>> the white establishment is now the minority. you're going to see a tremendous hispanic vote for president obama . overwhelming black vote for president obama . and women will probably break president obama 's way. people feel that they are entitled to things. and which candidate between the two is going to give them things?

>> does that remind you of the president being described as someone who gives free stuff? remember that fund-raiser --

>> i remember when mitt romney came from the naacp saying, they want free stuff.

>> they are victims --

>> that's the meaning of socialism, they want to take my hard-earned dollars and give them to those people for their stuff. that's really what this -- it's --

>> but if you treat the electorate with absolute contempt, and then they don't elect you, why do you go on television when the result has come in and continue to treat the electorate with contempt?

>> this is a party that's built its base on workers who have willingly become nonunions, hate unions. these are states particularly in the south that are basket cases, wards of the federal government . they take in more federal tax dollars than they give, than they could ever give. the blue states subsidizing their lifestyles. they are on the same dole they say is evil and socialist. they're in a disconnect with reality, fed purposelily people at bill morris , people at that network and then they turn around and make money off them because they sell viagra on air.

>> they do. we're watching the first family. they're expected to descend from the helicopter -- i believe, is that the president? it is. as the president and his two daughters descending the stairs and the first lady as well. they'll be approaching air force one and making the trip back to washington very soon, indeed. they're smiling at us. already, gold y some on the right have attempted to de- de-legitimize the results.

>> donald trump is trolling twitter. mitch mcconnell said this is not a mandate, that this broad-based supported, like this coalition, unlike any coalition we've seen in american politics , doesn't say something to this country about itself and about the direction that we are choosing to take the vision we bought into. if that isn't a mandate, i don't know what is.

>> well, i mean, it's interesting because i also heard the other mean going around is that the president should show humility. he needs to comport himself in a way he doesn't come across as a victor. he almost needs to come hat in hand to the right and ask them what they need.

>> that he's responsible for bipartisanship. i've said, that's privilege inaction when you're asking this particular president that he should be the one hat in hand, he's the one walking home --

>> and he did win.

>> after all.

>> goldie taylor and joy reid, thank you so much.