Ryan stumbles over Romney’s tax cut fumble

>>> what i've learned in getting bipartisan legislation moving is that you don't go to congress and say, here's all of our details, take it or leave it. you say, this is my framework. let's lower tax rates 20% across the board, close loopholes for high income people, make sure the middle income tax pairs are protected.

>> but you know the math --

>> you're going to leave it up to congress? where's the leadership.

>> no, we're saying --

>> you're a numbers dwi.

>> it wouldn't be too surprising if mitt romney within minutes of the debate ending made an emergency call to his running mate to clear up the mess he left behind on stage. in between a p90x session focused on making his dell trotoids, he made three appearances on morning television to spin mitt romney 's defeat into an imaginary victory. joining us -- why are you laughing, sir?

>> oh, just -- you're funny. this whole situation is funny.

>> i don't think is funny, brad, because mr. ryan clearly wanted to give republicans a reason not to drown themselves in their cornflakes so here's what he actually said. listen to this.

>> you're asking decided voters to close the deal four here. don't those voters have a right to know exactly what they're getting?

>> they have a right to know our bottom lines. there are three bottom lines. we're not going to raise the deficit. we're not going to raise taxes on middle class taxpayers. we're not going to reduce the share of the taxes borne by high income tax individuals.

>> they have a right to know our bottom lines, but don't we have a right to know which deductions we're going to lose if they these win the white house ? don't we have a right to know how reducing revenues by $7 trillion magically converts into a balanced budget ? don't we have a right to know these things?

>> well, you absolutely have a right to know. i mean, i guess we can all appreciate paul ryan is telling us what we're allowed to know. i mean, come on. i think paul ryan must wake up some mornings -- he's a good soldier but he must wake up wishing he hadn't been next to the phone when mitt romney made the call to ask him to be his vice presidential running mate because he's exhausted any credibility he's ever had. he's a number guy that wouldn't tell you the number. he has a tax plan but he won't tell you how it affects your taxes. pick your poison. it's a sketchy deal, a bonus bargain, a pig in a poke , a crap burger with cheese. but definitely what it is a raw deal for the middle class .

>> what did you think of ryan today calling on those six studies, three of which are dodgy blogs. he says they're now studies. if that's the case, i'm waiting for harvard to give me a ph.d. for my introduction to this segment.

>> well, that's exactly right. look, this point has been made over and over again and fact-checked to death. there aren't six studies that support their plan. there are virtually none. some of these they point out -- the things they put in that category is a blog post . next thing you know, they'll be counting tweets. i mean, it's embarrassing, martin.

>> in the mythical world of mitt romney , he loves to peddle this line on how he'll work on a bipartisan basis with democrats. can you explain to me how in 2011 ryan 's budget received not a single democratic vote and four republicans defected and in march of this year, not a single democrat voted for his budget and ten republicans defect the. that's an impressive bipartisan record, isn't it?

>> right, if you're talking about partisanship, it seems to be on the side against his budget, when you have republicans and democrats voting against his budget. look, this is one of the most rigidly partisan tickets in american history . mitt romney has run as an extreme or severe conservative. paul ryan is one of the most rigidly partisan members of congress. let's not forget, paul ryan told john boehner , don't cut a deal with the president to deal with our debt and deficit, don't cut a grand bargain because it might help the president politically. there's not a bipartisan bone in paul ryan 's body.

>> very impressive bones.

>> they sure are.