Hillary Clinton for 2016?

>>> we're back. hillary clinton is running for president. those are the words of new yorker editor david rem nick this week after he attended the saban forum. he writes of a tribute video in which american and world leaders display their love for the secretary of state and leave the door open for her future plans. i'd say wide open . here it is.

>> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks. i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton . because girl you're amazing just the way you are

>> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come.

>> well, it was quite a tribute. i watched it this afternoon. he goes on to say there was much chatter about what clinton would do after she steps down from the cabinet next month. get a haircut, take a few weeks sleeping it off the jet lag at canyon ranch , read the polls and the political landscape, do good works, do good works for the good people of, say, iowa , and so on. everyone had a theory of which they were very proud and were 100% certain of. that went much doubt about the ultimate direction. 2007 - 2008 was but a memory. 2016 was within sight. she's running. this is the editor of the new yorker magazine. ed rendell is the former governor of pennsylvania and future chief of staff to president clinton . he's t she's the editor-at-large joan walsh . i'm sorry, ed rges i'm sure you have a bigger job in mine. let's go to mr. inside first. let's go to the knowledge base of an insider who is close friends with not just bill but very close friends with hillary clinton as well who knows them and i believe would get the first call when they do decide to make the run probably next year or the year -- early the following year. but when they make the call, tell me what you think will be in their thinking when they call. how to do it differently? how to do it better? how to do it faster? how to scare off the opponents? all that.

>> well, first, let me say i believe what hillary says right now. i believe she's tired, she's beat up, and if you injected her with sodium pentothal and said are you going to run for president, she'd say no. is she persuadable? of course she is. and are the hundreds and thousands of people who want to see her run going to take a shot at it? yes, they are. when she's relaxed and not so tired, could she make a different decision? very possibly yes. but i don't think it's a done deal by any means and if they do do it, the answer to your question is, yeah, they've got to do it totally differently. they've got to get out early. husband there raise a boat load of money, make sure that their resources if it is a fight down the road, and if i was advising hillary , try to get her to preeveryone the field and i think she has a chance to preempt the field.

>> and don't forget the caucuses. they forgot those. places like south dakota that they overlooked, those places. joan , your thought, because i want to get to the governor about the inside. your thoughts about will she or won't she? what it sounds like from the governor it's going to be like like in '52 where henry cabot lodge and hugh scott , they had to beg them to run. this could be the first time in history where the people had to go to the candidate the governor is saying.

>> i think that's true, chris , and i agree with the governor. she's probably draftable. when she gets cajoled and guilt tripped by liberals and women and people who really believe --

>> why wouldn't she want to be president if it's offered to her?

>> do you know why? because it's not being offered to her, and that's the one thing that i want -- that's the point i want to make the most strongly. i have to say, i had a very weird reaction to that video. i supported her in 2008 . i hope she runs and if she runs, i expect to support her in 2016 although we don't know what the future will hold, but the most dangerous thing for hillary clinton is to believe what people are telling her about how she walks on water. we had an inevitable front-runner in 2007 in the democratic party , only she lost. and i would hate to see that happen again. but the fest shrift of that video and the adulation and the sense that it's just hers for the asking i think is poison for hillary clinton , and so i would advise her to put that video away and never watch it again and make a decision based on the future of 2016 .

>> you're so snort, jomart, joan . let's go back to a candidate the governor backed. when i was writing speeches for jim acarter and you were running around in philadelphia building the case with billy green , young billy, to build the case for the inevitable nomination of ted kennedy , it was inevitable for about a week and then he announced and it wasn't. so tell me, are you a little afraid of that?

>> there's a possibility, but i think hillary learned from 2008 . i think she's burn yired her resume. if americans thought, and a lot of them did, a majority of democratic voters, i hate to open up old sores, but a majority of democratic voters voted for her in 2008 , and if they believe she was ready to be president in 2008 after her incredible performance as secretary of state i think democratic voters do respond to a clinton presidency bid. there's no question --

>> how does she -- go ahead, governor. go ahead. i'm sorry. your voice.

>> no, no, the answer to the question though is you once asked me would i want to be president, and i said, chris , i would be president if i woke up and found i was president, i wouldn't resign, but i don't want to run for president. right now hillary clinton doesn't want to run for president. she doesn't want to slog through iowa . she doesn't want to slog through new hampshire. that can change but i think she honestly means it right now.

>> question i have to ask and i'm not an insider with her but i have warmed to her a lot over the years, and i have been very regretful of being too tough on her. i have been very regretful and i really mean that even though i'm chuckling all the time here. joan , here is the question. how do you keep that aura of statesmanship, of being a world leader when you get in the trenches because they are rough out there. you get into iowa and you got a bunch of reporters chasing you around for every comment you make. how do you stay up there like eyssisenhower was?

>> i think it's tough to be an eisenhower figure in this media landscape and i think the clintons, you know, they rise -- their stair rises and falls and were she to run, there would be more people out there trying to pick her apart, chris . it would be worse than in 2008 . she's also -- she's very much tied to the obama presidency which could mean if he has a fantastic four years, that's good for her. on the other hand, the media are so fickle. we all know this. that there would be people, you know, out there gunning for her. al gore was not able to become president on the strength of the clinton presidency, so, you know, there's just a lot -- there are a lot of land mines in the way. i think she could do it, but, again, she'd really have to decide why she wants to be president and tell that story to the american people and make it be about 2016 , not 2008 or 2000 .

>> i think clinton -- i think bill clinton rises and falls but she always rises, but your thoughts, governor, last quick thought.

>> chris , just think as we discuss this issue, think of who is out there in the democratic party that could actually make a serious challenge to her right now. i certainly agree that the general election would be, you know, nip and tuck and would be hard fought, but who is out there that could preempt her? possibly the vice president, but his base and his fund-raisers are the same as hers. there's just nobody out there who i think can contend with her.

>> i don't see martin o'malley beating her. i see martin o'malley on the ticket. i see andrew cuomo having the same base. it would be tough. thank you, governor. i know you thought this through.

>> no baby boomer ticket, chris ?

>> i don't know.

>> hillary and ed?

>> that would be a great ticket.

>> baby boomer ticket.

>> i think you guys are too close to be running together. i don't think the ticket is supposed to like each other that much. joan walsh , thank you. governor rendell.

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