Romney, Ryan, conservatives: We lost because ‘urban voters’ chose Obama

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>>> do you think photo i.d. would have made any difference? the outcome of this election?

>> yes, i think so. we're looking at all sorts of different precincts and all sorts of same-day registrations. people will go on, we don't have fraud and abuse in our election, but why couldn't we have voter i.d. when majority of our people in wisconsin want it, the governor signed it. why should one judge be able to hold it up?

>> there you have the problem with the republican party . pay a lot of attention to that what that woman just said, senate senator. that's the state -- state senator wisconsin , i don't know her, served as mitt romney 's co-chair in the state and now she's saying suppressing the voter i.d. cards would have made the difference in wisconsin . let's look at the facts. apparently she's not interested in the fact. obama won wis we by 205,000 votes. 200,000 votes plus. she's saying there that that was staled, the democrats stalled. poor people came in the state, they stole over 200,000 votes. that's her claim because there weren't foeter voter i.d. requirements. paul ryan -- there's more of this dog whistle crap going on. paul ryan expressing his surprise that the pro- obama turnout in an interview monday, two days ago, well after the election, they're still talking like this. let's listen to ryan here.

>> i'm surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout, essentially in urban areas , which definitely gave president obama the big margin. to win this race.

>> well, cynthia tucker , visiting professor of journalism at university of georgia and joan walsh , editor-at-large by salon. the l.a. times just posted a report on mitt romney 's conference call today with top donors. it says romney , quote, attributed his rival's victory to, quote, the gifts the obama administration had given to blacks, hispanics and young voters during obama 's first term. obama , romney argued, had been very generous, quotes around it, to blacks, hispanics and young voters. i once heard a canadian election saying they lost election to people that wanted to stay as part of canada because of ethnic voters. this guy, paul ryan who i don't think is right for prime time yet by any means talking about the urban vote. now, they won the other side because they got the most votes. because they won fair and square, which is the first thing ryan said. why do you have to step on his own headline. they won fair and square by saying, oh, it was the black vote. basically, that's what he's saying.

>> chris , let me just say, as for romney 's comments, i'm still waiting for my gift. i'm waiting for my gift from obama . i haven't received my gift yet.

>> where is it?

>> maybe it was lost in the mail.

>> you may have voted for him without getting that thing in the mail he was supposed to send everybody?

>> maybe chris has it.

>> i did not get my gift. let me just say the comments that you have focused on en encapsulate the republicans' problems. while pundits have been speculating that republicans have finally learned their lessons, they have to stop being so disrespectful to large blocs of voters. they have not learned. they cannot stop being disrespectful and dismisses ive. this business of urban vote. chris , you're an urban voter. you live in a city, don't you?

>> actually, i live two blocks outside a city, but i spent most my life living either in philadelphia or in worcester, massachusetts, in college, which is a city, or in washington, d.c. for many, many years, yes.

>> i mean, this is just nonsense. they cannot speak of us as americans, as voters. and we understand that. and that's the reason so many black and brown people , and so many white voters, by the way, don't vote for the republican party .

>> yeah, i think that was well said. i think a lot of white people are turned off by this old style stuff. joanie, my question to you, my dear friend, how do you explain romney , who left the stage with such grace on election night , i'll tribute to that forever the way he did it, now going back over this again saying they bought the minority vote. this is the kind of thing he was saying during the campaign, remember. he was saying, they get rid of work requirement for welfare because he had to pay off his base. the feeding of the base. it's a theme he's still pushing.

>> why does he say it, chris ? because he really believes it. they really believe this is what it's all about and we've all been paid off. as cynthia says, i'm still waiting for my gifts, too. the thing that irks me to hear the two people from wisconsin speak so dismisses ively about their own population and own state -- i mean, paul ryan lost his own district, his city, his hometown, which is not a particularly urban place. but i cast --

>> 200,000 vote thieves. 200,000.

>> and i cast my first vote for jimmy carter in suburban milwaukee. i went to high school and college in wisconsin . we are proud of our tradition, of broad public participation in the vote, chris . wisconsin --

>> and clean elections , too.

>> clean elections . wisconsin and minnesota have the two highest rates of participation. that used to be something to proud of as a wisconsin resident. they are mad because they got their butts kicked by a resurgent democratic party in the state, which outorganized them. that's what it's all about.

>> you know, teddy white when he wrong making the president in '66, when you have votes in states like wisconsin and minnesota, you can count on the vote being exactly right. let's go back to cynthia. people out there will say matte matthews, and you sign thea hear that dog whistle when it's not even there. maybe, but when you put it all together from sununu's loss of lazy, he belongs in kenya, the latest character a few minutes ago. did you hear about the christian right wing guy said mexicans are socialist because it's in their blood because they come from a socialist country . wait a minute. arnold schwarzenegger is from socialist austria. it's the reason he left. it could be they want to live in a country with more freedom and less government. i don't know. a lot of people i grew up with in the united states from polish backgrounds and other backgrounds, they come from that -- ukrainian backgrounds, they want the catholic school , they all came from left wing -- hard left wing communist countries and they're the opposite. this idea you can trace people's ideological dna through their migratory roots is insane.

>> it shows how very little they understand their fellow americans and how very little they're trying to understand. you know, chris , what it says to me, a lot of the nonsense that we heard over the election, the welfare ads and all of, that i thought they put that nonsense out there to satisfy their base. now i'm noting how many of the republican strategists really believe those ugly stereotypes about voters of color. and let me further say, chris , that it isn't just the nonsense we heard in this election. black americans have understood, have heard republicans speak disrespectfully of us for the last 50 years. that's the reason black americans don't vote for the republican party . now for the last five to seven years, latinos have been hearing the same thing. if you continue to talk about us in this stereotypical, dismissive manner, we get the message. you don't want us in your party. and, of course, we are not going to give you our votes. it's as simple as that.

>> i love the way they just say, and i use that sarcastically, well, were your votes stolen or bought? that's a nice debate in the republican party . we can't decide if they bought their votes or stole them? i make it funny because it's horrible. sin sthee yeah, i love your passion and truth. joan, too. the name of your book?

>> "what's the matter with white people ?" ?

>> absent tonight's discussion.

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