Hardball | November 07, 2012
>>> the only people more depressed than republicans today are comedians nail miss out on the xheedic potential of a romney administration and also lost old friends last night, todd akin last night, joe walsh , allen west . bill maher warned us about the risk last week. let's take a look.
>> that's it. that's the election. it is your choice, america , because for me it's a win-win. if it's obama , america wins. if it's romney , comedy wins.
>> well, last night america won, comedy lost, you might say. bill maher the host of " real time " an amazing television show . with bill maher on hbo. bill, karl rove has offered some material. is he the baghdad bob of the 2012 election, the last guy to admit something's new and something bad is happening?
>> it was a little hitler's bunker, wasn't it? i wanted to rush in with a cyanide capsule there. i thought he was going to say, i don't want to live in a world without national socialism . okay, mrs. gerbels. it gets to a bigger point, chris , that republicans have to start getting their information from a better source than fox news. i'm not kidding about this. i think this really screws them up. all year long we have had this segment on our program called dispatches from the bubble, we actually had a bubble made and put a republican in it. you know, with the rasmussen poll, they actually closed the last hole in the bubble. now they have their own polling. they believed it right up until the end. they were shocked by this election. they have to somehow fix the way they get information, because they only talk to each other. and they don't know what's going on in the real world . they were rudely awakened last night.
>> what do you think it was like to be in that bubble with mitt romney in that time after it -- i call it the knockout, like the sixth round. all of a sudden midevening east coast time last night, it started to go in that direction, the democratic direction so powerfully. what do you think they were telling him when he's running around, this isn't supposed to happen, you guys were telling me i was winning this thing?
>> i mean, i think they were still saying, yes, you have 12 divisions on the eastern front . i mean, until they actually heard the artillery -- i should stop with the --
>> i think hitler never works myself. it never works. you know that. anyway, look, dick morris -- let me give you a break. dick morris predicted a romney landslide last week. he said the polls were totally wrong. let's listen to mr. morris.
>> in florida "the times" says obama will win by one but their sample has seven points more democrats than republicans. that poll is off by a factor of eight. so, instead of obama winning by one, romney would win florida by seven. in virginia, they have obama winning by two. but they have eight points more democrats than republicans and historically there's one point more republican than democrat. that's off by a factor of nine. romney wins ohio by -- wins virginia by seven.
>> okay. so you are standing by your prediction of a romney landslide?
>> absolutely. romney will win this election by five to ten points in the popular vote and will carry more than 30 0 electoral votes .
>> well, that didn't happen. i wonder about the way people use jargon to establish their preem unanimous. he says, not by eight points but by a factor of eight and a factor of nine. is that supposed to give you some sense that this guy has a new -- has a different kind of, whatever, i don't know, slide rule he's using? what is this anyway, your thoughts on mr. morris?
>> i mean, last night was a victory for pot, for gay marriage and for math. you know, these people have denied facts and math. one of the big arguments they put forward for not doing anything about health care was, why are we messing around with the greatest health care system in the world? i don't know. maybe because the u.n. ranks it 37? outside of the bubble there are facts. i know they're not in the bible but can't we use them sometimes? i mean, i think this is what it's going to have to come down to. you know, when obama made that point in his victory speech last night about the little girl with leukemia, i thought, you know, yeah, i wish you had said that during the campaign. it really comes down to that. one party in this country says, we are going to work backwards from the premise that little girls don't die from lieu keeeukemia if we can all prevent it. the other party says, no, we love unfettered capitalism. america has just decide, you know what, we are a modern country . i made fun of the democratic slogan, forward, one word, what is that? but at the end of the day , people who don't follow this very closely like we do just came down to, yeah, forward. yeah, you know what, i'm not crazy about him but let's keep moving forward.
>> i don't think it was about him. i think it was the attitude toward their country and the time they live in. donald trump took to twitter, trashing the election rurngz. this is what he said on twitter, in real time , to use your phrase. he lost the popular vote by a lot. he's talking about the president. and won the election. we should have a revolution this country. more donald trump tweeting. this election is a total sham and a travesty. we are not a democracy. and more, we can't let this happen. we should march on washington and stop this travesty. our nation is totally divided. well, later tonight mr. trump deleted all of his tweets. your thoughts.
>> i mean, it doesn't deserve thoughts because these aren't thoughts. i mean, as soon as obama care really kicks in, they really need to get this man to a hospital. i mean, there is something going on here. i think it's that bovine thing. i don't know if -- mad cow , i don't know what you want to call it but the people in atlanta do amazing things with neurological workups. he needs one. this guy only two years ago was like apolitical, right? i don't even know what party he was. i don't know if he knew what party he was. now he wants to march on washington ? this is -- so it's not democracy when your candidate loses?
>> yeah, that's the deal.
>> this guy is just a clown. i mean, i can't believe nbc is going to stand by this guy.
>> i hear he's still looking for the college records of the president because he thinks somewhere in the transcript will be information on him being i foreign student . he's still on this trail. anyway, let's take a look at some of the real -- well, let's say, colorful factors here of people. joe walsh and allen west are gone, as of last night. mourdock and akin won't get back in there. they're gone. here's what you tweeted, bill, last night about somebody else we know well, and i think we helped create her. i'm pulling for michele bachmann in minnesota. can't lose all the punch lines in one night. michele bachmann has staying power , we must admit.
>> well, she won by 500 votes, but, yeah, it's very hard to unseat any incumbents. that's one of the problems we have in this country, is that people are always complaining about congress and they hate it and they give it a 9% approval rating and then they vote the same people back in every time.
>> you spent a million dollars backing -- you spent a million dollars, which i never imagined giving anything like it, you give $1 million to the obama effort, obama superpac and the other guys, koch brothers gave a couple hundred million , and addelson, he gave a bunch, but he makes it every hour in the casinos in macaw. you know what i liked, the tv advertisement had nothing to do with results. people don't pick their president from 30-second tv ads.
>> we don't know that. what i thought about giving the money early was defining mitt romney , letting people know who he was. especially in the swing states . another thing i tweeted last night, since we've made these ten swing states the decider in this election, since they're the simon cowells here who decide the singing contest, since obama basically ran the table in the swing states , shouldn't that be considered a mandate, chris ? i'm asking you, chris .
>> yes. yes, it should.
>> let me ask you about -- it's like your audience got to vote, like your view of world was out there. maine and maryland, perhaps washington will turn out, washington state , will actually -- voted for pro gay -- for same-sex marriages. it won't be the courts. it will be the people going to the voting booths. the marijuana thing developing. i wonder what it says when you can only have enough for, what, one person if you're stopped by a policeman and four and five people are in the car, do they divide it up quickly? i don't take it lightly but these new laws will be frisky to enforce, i would think. your thoughts.
>> well, i can certainly answer your questions about one person and how you divide it up. but that's for another day, chris . as far as the laws themselves, you know, i mean, fantastic. i went out and celebrated last night. this is really america moving forward. and what i find so ironic is that the people who hate this, the tea party people who want to restore america and have the country go backward, they're always the liberty people. they're always talking about liberty and don't tread on me. this is liberty. liberty is deciding what i put in my body, how i want to get high, who i want to marry, who i want to be with. this is actual liberty. they just don't get it.
>> freedom you can feel?
>> yeah. actual freedom, yes.
>> i've always -- i've thought about that a lot. by the way, i'm glad you finally said it. bill maher , freedom. it's when you were a kid and you got to leave the house around 10:30 at night, you're going out, you figured one of their parents would put their hand on your shoulder and pull you back and you kept going. that was freedom. nobody's pulling me back in the house at night. i'm going out. that was my first reality. thanks, bill. i love being on your show.
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